Date: 2021-08-25 05:22 pm (UTC)
lordultimus: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lordultimus
Before anyone asks, this guy's costume was designed by a real Native American.

Also, he's a different tribe from American Eagle.

Date: 2021-08-25 05:32 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
God i love it when people GET captain america....

Date: 2021-08-25 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] aperturedreams
The first issue had Cap threatening to break the first Captain's teeth for no reason, I'm not convinced that Cantwell "gets" Captain America. And the first Captain was a gay teenager trying to help other runaway children too.

Date: 2021-08-25 09:14 pm (UTC)
thanekos: Seiga Kaku from Touhou 13, shadowed. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
That scene was Steve, after having been attacked by someone dressed like Captain America - someone shown in either partial shadow or from a distance up to that scene - who'd just caused a train crash, confronting a figure who looked like Captain America and was near the scene of the crime.

No ironclad logic says Steve absolutely couldn't be short-tempered in that scenario - and, within the next page, he's talking calmly to the guy.
Edited Date: 2021-08-25 09:16 pm (UTC)

Date: 2021-08-25 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] aperturedreams
Fair points all around...it still just put me off.

Date: 2021-08-25 10:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shakalooloo
Steve certainly seems to be caught off guard and lost for words quite in bit in just these scans. Utterly unprepared for someone expecting him to tell them to stop being Captain America? Stunned that someone would hero-worship him? "I... I feel like... I could do BETTER."?

Seem like Cap forgot his cue cards that night. Sure, he can't rattle off a speech at the drop of a shield, but I wouldn't think he'd be stuttering or ellipsing so much; maybe just a stoic, thoughtful silence, or a short, declarative statement.

Everything he's DOING is fine, it's just his talking that seems a little off to me.

Also, apparently Red Skull is, like, 5'9"?
Edited Date: 2021-08-25 10:37 pm (UTC)

Date: 2021-08-26 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] aperturedreams
Yeah, I feel like you actually phrased some of my concerns quite well

Date: 2021-08-26 04:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] coldfury
Eh, I think it tracks.

Steve has always been a bit afraid of hero worship, at least in the books I followed. I mean, he was created in a response to Hitler, so I think he's wary of becoming a cult of personality. He strives to inspire people to do the right thing, but I don't think he's prepared for people to emulate how he does the right thing.

It reminds me of Avengers/JLA where Cap is perturbed by how much the citizens of the DC Earth worship Justice League and particularly Superman. Add in the semi-recent developments with Stevil subverting everything Steve is to hand the country over to Hydra, and I feel he'd be even more wary of people granting him hero worship.

So it tracks that this development, and the apparent sheer commonplace-ness of it is catching him on the backfoot.

Date: 2021-08-25 11:38 pm (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: Charlie Crews vs. Faucet (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
I've speculated this could be a tribute to Denny O'Neil, even though I don't think O'Neil ever worked on Captain America. Agree/Disagree?

Date: 2021-08-26 02:48 am (UTC)
mastermahan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mastermahan
Steve just looks wrong without any red in his costume.

Date: 2021-08-26 12:39 pm (UTC)
sabertoothlotus: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sabertoothlotus
Thank you! I was having a hard time figuring out why I hate this costume so much,but I think this is part o it.

Date: 2021-08-27 02:30 am (UTC)
lordultimus: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lordultimus
At least he has the wings on his head. Ultimate Cap taught me that he looks weirder without them, strange as it sounds.

Date: 2021-08-27 06:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] leahandillyana
I think Gomez is my favourite Captain America.

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