Way of X #5 - "The Fall"

[laughing_tree]

Funnily enough the way the X-line has propagated from the House of X/Powers of X beginning, it runs in parallel to how a new state has to set itself up in the real world. Which is, you start from a position of "we are new, we are perfect, nothing is wrong with us." Then, over time, it becomes quite clear that actually it's not perfect, and probably they knew it wasn't perfect from the beginning. -- Si Spurrier

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[donnblake]

"Darndest thing, Kurt. You said that the key to your being able to reconstruct the true Krakoan Way was "Fabian gets to do murders." No clue what you meant by that, but that's definitely what you said."

And I guess nobody did bother to do the orbits maths before they decided to substantially increase Mars's mass. Not making a great case for yourselves as superior planetary stewards, guys.

[tinygaylaura]

I mean

They haven't spent over a hundred years fucking the planet into a coma in the name of big oil while actively working to prevent anything that might solve the problem and pretending the problem doesn't exist because that would get in the way of making them money

So

I'd say that yeah, unless that happens, they're still superior to humanity in regard how they're treating their planet

[donnblake]

I mean, if you value the natural state of the planet without technological interference, Krakoa's fucked Mars more thoroughly than anything humanity has ever done to Earth.

If you value long term planning as to the planet's ability to maintain a stable ecosystem capable of supporting life (and really whether you privilege sapient lifeforms or not) Krakoa's expansionist policies immediately resulted in them coming with eleven minutes, and one conveniently placed (not planned, mind you) synergy of mutant powers, away from planetary scale annihilation. That is not a great record.

[tinygaylaura]

I don't value the natural state of a planet at all

I value a planet based entirely on what it gives the people who own it and how long we can get use out of it. Because I view this planet and all other planets as lumps of rock and dirt that exist to be useful to those who own them

I don't think that humanity destroying the earth is a bad thing because of the Precious Sacred Nature of Mother Earth or any of that hippy nonsense. Its a bad thing because it will negatively affect humanity and more importantly it might negatively affect me in my lifetime.

I'm fine with Mutantkind terraforming every single unoccupied planet in the entire universe for their own personal use. So long as they make sure that they make sure the planet is a stable habitat for their use and they don't fuck it up for future generations who will own it as well

And it seems like they're doing a better job at that than we have

[donnblake]

I mean, except for dropping a moon on themselves.

Edit: Of course, I could be wrong. Maybe the failure to predict the moon falling and killing everyone on the planet had less to do with motivated reasoning vis a vis their domestic and interstellar agendas, and was caused by Onslaught or Orchis or Galactus doing an unscheduled fly-by, in which case I'll gladly order a Prince of Sturmhalten's Big Bet next time I'm in Mechanicsburg.

[deh_tommy]

Well that’s just selfish and cruel. Not everything exists to be exploited, sometimes that’s best to leave things well enough alone. In the case of Mars, the Krakoans made a very human, very big passive-aggressive show of how superior they are to us pathetic normies but here that turns out to be all flash and little substance because whoopsie daisies they’re actually wrecking the ecosystem.

[mindsweeper]

This is my fear with Hickman leaving. He said when he first started that they got all these pitches about tearing things down instead of building things up.

While this is the only book currently unselling the Mars achievement (Ewing and Duggan are still doing a good job with building its potential), I think this is a bad sign of things to come with destructive writers moving in.

I’m expecting to save a lot of money not buying new direction X-books in 2022.

[tinygaylaura]

I really hope that when Hickman leaves we don't get an influx of hacks trying to ruin everything. I'm hoping the X-line will be keeping most of the same writers for the most part like Ayala, Howard, Duggan and Ewing. And that any new ones who come onboard aren't boring assholes who want to turn everything back into "The X-men! Vowing to be spineless centrists in a world that hates and fears them!"

[shadowpsykie]

Xavier really is the worst.....

[tinygaylaura]

Kitty Pryde warned us all the way back in the 80's we were fools not to listen