Mod Post: Off-Topic Tuesday

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In the comments to these weekly posts (and only these posts), it's your chance to go as off topic as you like.

Talk about non-comics stuff, thread derail, and just generally chat among yourselves.

The intent of these posts is to chat and have some fun and, sure, vent a little as required. Reasoned debate is fine, as always, but if you have to ask if something is going over the line, think carefully before posting please.

Normal board rules about conduct and behaviour still apply, of course.

It's been suggested that, if discussing spoilers for recent media events, it might be advisable to consider using the rot13 method to prevent other members seeing spoilers in passing.

The world situation is the world situation. If you're following the news, you know it as much as I do, if you're not, then there are better sources than me.

It would seem remiss, however, to not mention the upheaval and concern created by last weeks US Supreme Court overturning of Roe V Wade, making access to abortion no longer a natonal right, but determinable at the State level. As a gay, non-American man, I feel it is not my place (on multiple levels) to pontificate on this, but to support those better placed to do so as best I can.

We would ask that any such discussion remain civilised though. There are other forums better suited to some discussions than here.

I will note that, from what I can see reported, the precendent this sets on SCOTUS reviewing other decisions, relating to matters such as access to contraceptives and LGBTQA+ equality are also deeply disturbing.

A fatal shooting incident in Oslo, affecting three night clubs, one of which was a noted LGBTQA nightspot resulted in the cancellation of a major Pride event. However, a spontaneous march of solidarity still took place to the site of the shootings that afternoon, for which our unalloyed respect.

Obi Wan Kenobi came to what I felt was a satisfactory end (to the extent I'm not sure I'd want another series)

"The Umbrella Academy" season 3 showed up on Netflix and is proving to be as weirdly, enjoyably, asshole-ishly (not sure that's a word), dysfunctional as previous seasons.

Stranger Things Season 4 Pt 2 is arriving this week. I've not been able to get into Season 4 Pt1 as yet (Too much high school embarassment based stuff in the first couple of episodes and that's not something that's ever appealled much, though I'm assured it improves)

Comments

[zachbeacon]

Well, the thing that was obviously going to happen has officially happened.
We were told we were being alarmist when one political party has spent decades chipping away at abortion rights while the other has done very little to protect them even though they fundraise off of it.
I expect them to go after gay marriage next.
Happy Pride Month, everyone.
(I still think interracial marriage is on their checklist too)

Maybe it’s just the trend of recent superhero movies that have been WAY longer than they need to be but my main takeaway from Doctor Strange 2 is how fast it moves. We all knew about the obvious villain reveal but I didn’t expect it in their introductory scene. Also really enjoyed how much they leaned into the weird magic shit instead of doing the “this is basically a science we haven’t explained” thing we usually see in the MCU.
PS: Bruce Campbell’s deserved what he got; what kind of monster puts mustard on pizza?

Speaking of fast-paced, I wish the final arc of Amphibia had more time to breathe. Still, it was nice to see so many returning characters (some of which I assumed were one-offs) and the time skip was appreciated. I didn’t expect it to go full Sailor Moon in the end when the previous powerups were more DBZ.

Ms. Marvel continues to be a baffling adaptation.
It takes a good guy with energy construct powers to fight a bad guy with energy construct powers.
I don’t think anyone really expected Chicken Thomas Edison* to be the series villain but I’m a little sick of watching MCU characters fight villains with the same power set.
*(Though “someone is abducting marginalized children” is a MUCH better plot than what this show is doing)
Then there are the changes to the origin. Putting aside that 616 Ms. Marvel would probably never have been an Inhuman if not for executive temper tantrums about mutants, I get why you’d want to go in a different direction in the MCU. I figured she was changed to a Nega-powered human because someone decided it wasn’t a great look having a heroine from a marginalized group be, well, inhuman. Wow, I was wrong to give them that much credit. They doubled down on the whole “not from around here” thing in a really uncomfortable way.
See? Damage Control is totally justified in harassing innocent people at Mosques. After all, some people who look just like ordinary Muslims might set off an explosion.

Nostalgia for better Ms. Marvel stories caused me to redownload some old comics. Then the Comixology app still being a piece of shit (so many pages failed to download) caused me to read them on Marvel Unlimited instead. Zoe has such a great background character arc in this series and a think Sheik Abdullah is severely underrated. Still a shame what they did to Kamala’s parents after Wilson left, though. I’m not going to pretend the Wilson run was perfect but … wow did the series decline in quality when the original creative team left.

I’ve also been reading …
Rucka’s Checkmate – Be Gay, Do Warcrimes
Nightwing: Fear State – Wow, that crossover tie-in really killed this comic’s momentum. The Batgirls story seems like it’s only there to pad out the collection. At least the Dick/Jason annual story was good.

I wish I knew what was going on with the new TMNT game. It came out digitally a couple weeks ago to some extremely positive reviews but the physical copy I preordered still shows a late August release date. Considering how long it took Limited Run Games to send the copy of Scott Pilgrim I ordered directly from them, that seems optimistic.

The penultimate story update for Dragalia Lost dropped this week. In terms of broad cosmic strokes, its going where I expected it to but I didn’t expect this story about friendship and reconciliation to have so many fights with multiversal doppelgangers of The Prince’s friends. Also, I didn’t actually expect them to address the romantic element in the end but it looks like they officially killed one of the more popular ships while implying the gross one could still happen.

*cough*CWFlash*cough*

[scorntx]

Frankly it was surprising seeing Damage Control arrest the actual bad guys, rather than let them go in favour of trying to kill Kamala.
More surprising than "characters we haven't even known for thirty minutes turn out to be EVIL" at any rate.
... but in all likelihood the next time we see Clan Destine they'll effortlessly slaughter their way out of DC custody. (yay?)

On the topic of baffling adaptational choices, with each episode there's a worry that one of Kamala's parents, most likely her dad, will be killed off for The Angst.
Not resting easy on that one until the series is over.

[mastermahan]

Baffling adaption is right. Some of it is understandable. Dropping the Inhuman connection now that they're not trying to make them the new X-Men? Sure. It always felt a bit tacked on, though G. Willow Wilson made good use of it. Changing her powers? Kamala's powers are unusual and fun, and a big part of her appeal. I can understand changing them to something easier to cgi, but they could have made them a little less generic. But dang, the weird choices are piling up.

I agree about Zoe's arc being excellent in the comic. It's a shame to see her reduced to the shallow queen bee Comic Zoe only appears to be. Not super thrilled about Kamala's dad being transformed into Bumbling Sitcom Dad either.

The racist federal agents saving the day by stopping the evil brown people was certainly a choice.

[laughing_tree]

Wait, bad guy with energy constructs? What did I miss?

Also don't see the problem with the new otherdimensional origin, other than that so far it's so generic. Right out of the sci-fi cliche warehouse. But I don't see how having roots from outside is _problematic_. Not in the genre that's had that kind of origin story since literally day one, with Superman.

[dewinged]

I don't have anything right now to talk about. Which is fine.

But my depression is acting up and I'm just...weary.

[icon_uk]

Sorry to hear that.

Is there anything we can do to help? Posting from a particular genre of comic or a "comfort read" perhaps?

[donnblake]

I read Blackfish City. Cyberpunk climate change sci-fi with nanotech shamans bonded with animals. Unscrupulous real estate developers as evil overlords rather than burgeoning threat. A fun ride if you're into that sort of thing, but something about the snzvyl qlanzvpf that turn out to be driving everything left me unsatisfied.

Much belatedly, I got a copy of Piranesi. I won't comment too much on plot, since a lot of the pleasure is working out how Piranesi came to be in the House alongside him (or, rather a bit ahead, but the reader has advantages that Piranesi lacks). A gorgeous story, with more than a hint of Borges in it, if that interests anyone.

Now I'm reading Between Two Fires. Historic apocalyptic horror is an easy sell for me, and France during the Black Death is the perfect setting for it. Buehlman's demons are satisfyingly weird, too.

[icon_uk]

Piranesi is in my "to read" pile. I'm not sure I could reread "Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell" due to going in being aware of how brilliant, but how DENSE a read it was, but I'm happy to give another (and shorter) of Sussanah Clarke's books a go!

[skjam]

This last weekend was my birthday, and the last regular service of my childhood church, so I visited my hometown with family.
More on that here: http://www.skjam.com/2022/06/26/open-thread-birthday-and-church/

[icon_uk]

Belated Happy Returns!

[scorntx]

Obi-Wan Kenobi, an entirely paint-by-numbers product that came to an utterly expected conclusion.
Well, it kills time until The Mandalorian comes back.
(Or the Bad Batch, I guess.)
And the clickbait articles going on about "surprise cameos".
Not sure either of those fits any definition of surprise.

Finished rereading Visions of the Future.
That had a lot of plotlines going.
And so many "space" sayings. Y'know, they used normal cusses in the movies. You don't need to space things up. It says "Star Wars" right there on the cover, pretty sure that gives a good clue what we're in for.
Started re-reading one of the New Jedi Order books. That's proving easier going. Weird.

My now quite old (and probably older than I think) laptop conked out over the weekend.
Bit upsetting. Especially since I was in the middle of stuff.
Stuff I'd been working on for months and don't got backed up anywhere else.
Not taking that well.

So far the madness is expressing itself in trying to see what a mash-up of Transformers, the Star Wars sequels and, uh, She-Ra would look like.
That's the baseline for current feeling of sanity.
(There might be some Visionaries and certain other Hasbro franchises bleeding in.)

Just having an insanely frustrating time dealing with stupid bureaucracy lately.
Not to mention rude, condescending, bordering-on-if-not-outright bullying.
Grr...

Watching Ms. Marvel got a bit interesting when a family member who up until this point I thought would have had no interest in it whatsoever came into the room and was terribly upset I'd been watching without them.

I like Nakia. She's great. (and to a lesser extent, the sheik.)
Though frankly, I'm surprised Jerkass Not-FBI Agent Woman had to be told to take her shoes off in a mosque.
I get the feeling she's been in mosques before. She should know the rules.
Wow. Didn't take long for Them to turn.
Seriously. They've been waiting for decades, and it takes one polite turn-down to instantly jump to attacking? Not even trying to manipulate Kamala? They dumb.

Whole slew of Transformers reveals the other week, including a new Goldbug, and a Robots in Disguise Scourge. And Burn Out, to go with the Selects Lift-Ticket.
And a whole line homaging the Wreckers comic. Odd turnaround, given how recent that was...

Looking through some old Marvel stuff, found out about The Fin and Moon Man.
Loving those two just for the sheer ridiculousness of their names alone.
C'mon. "The Fin"?

And on BBC radio, the new series of Dead Ringers is off to a moderately funny start.
... they actually had a few sketches not about British (English) politics for once.
Wild.

[iamrman]

So much for my theory of Kamala's bangles being Eternals tech. Thank God.

[cygnia]

My gyno is telling me not to panic and that getting a tubal would be "invasive" and that being 47 would be "too early" for one. She's swearing that I could still get morning after pills if needed...

I'm angry, I'm pissed and I hate Ohio. And I've got something in one of my breasts that needs a more thorough scan later next month. It's probably nothing. But again, I hate Ohio.

[janegray]

At this point I don't know how anybody could go "don't panic!" without feeling like a guy on the Titanic insisting that a little scratch on the ship is no big deal.

[iamrman]

I finally got around to seeing Multiverse of Madness. I was prepared to hate it when I found out who the villain was, but in the end it turned out to be a fine mid-tier Marvel movie.

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I enjoyed the final episode of Obi-Wan. One problem though.

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I have just read the Batman/Judge Dredd collection and it inspired me to check out thr classic Dredd stories. I did have to double dip however, as volume 2 of the Complete Judge Dredd Case Files didn't include the whole of the Cursed Earth arc. Those of you that have read it can probably guess which parts were missing.

I pre-ordered Capcom Fighting Collection, a compulation of various fighting games. Of most interest to me were the Darkstalkers games. Fighting games with sexy monster ladies? Yes, please!

Also, there was yet another version of Street Fighter II in the collection. Hyper Street Fighter II, I think. God knows how it differs from the umpteen other versions though.

[skjam]

Ah yes, the classic "sealed chapters" of the Cursed Earth Saga. I had those issues at one point. (long gone to rent, alas.)

[mister_terrific]

I am beyond disgusted with the state of things here in the US. I would very much like to know if there will be any legal consequences to the current January 6 hearings. I'm not confident there will be.

We discussed the SCOTUS decision with our daughter over the weekend. We mentioned that if she knew anyone in need of a place to stay or transportation for a "camping trip", to give them our number. Daughter replied, "Oh, I already volunteered you, don't worry." Imagine my surprise. :)

Having a tough time getting motivated to write, though that seems to be improving slowly but surely.

And I picked up the latest volume of "Interviews with Monster Girls" the other day, and was very happy with the plot developments. Just sorry that it looks like the series will be ending soon.

[remial]

at least it is ending on its own terms, rather than being canceled.

have you looked at Ruri Dragon, which is available for reading online officially. high school girl wakes up one morning with horns. asks mom WTF, and mom says, "oh, yeah, been meaning to tell you, your dad is a dragon. anyway, gotta go to work. have fun at school, bye!"

her classmates think they are cool, her teacher could not be more laid back about them, (he just asks, you feel OK? tell me if you need to go see the nurse.)

then she sneezes and breaths fire, setting the hair of the guy who sits in front of her on fire, and starts bleeding from the mouth because her throat isn't used to breathing fire.

only 3 chapters out so far, but it is very cute and has the same level of cozy as Monstergirls (which is one of my favorites)

[melancholiahemlock]

Well, the UK's fascist policing bill just came into effect. That "up to ten years in prison for 'annoying' protest" one. So that's great.

[icon_uk]

I saw that at lunchtime. It didn't take them long to target Steve Bray

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/28/police-swoop-on-stop-brexit-man-under-new-anti-protest-law

[cygnia]

In less teeth-gritting news, I just enjoyed the 1st episodes of s2 Only Murders In the Building.

[thezmage]

Any theories as to who did it yet?

I don't have any suspects personally, it is a bit too early, but I'm a bit suspicious about Znory'f arj tveysevraq. V xabj gurl nyernql jrag gb gung jryy va frnfba bar ohg fbzrguvat nobhg gur erpbeqvat bs Znory fznfuvat gung fgnghr gb cvrprf znxrf zr guvax vg'yy fubj hc yngre rqvgrq gb znxr vg ybbx yvxr fur'f npghnyyl xvyyvat fbzrobql. Nyfb V'z guvaxvat gung gur naablvat arvtuobe jvgu gur png jnf gur crefba jub grkgrq gurz gb trg bhg bs gur ohvyqvat, naq ur guvaxf ur'f orvat urycshy

[leahandillyana]

All my Western fandom 'friends' (these are people I often never talked with, just follow their social media) that normally only blog about their respective blorbos are losing their shit over the USA decision, even if they are not from the USA. It goes to bizarre lengths, like giving advice how to get an abortion in France (as if a person who is too poor to go to another state would travel to France to get an abortion). I feel extremelly salty, because these same people never reblogged a single post about Russian invasion on Ukraine or Poland banning abortion altogether. It's an irl example of the bird who was uncomfortable when the discussion was not centered on them.
Yesterday my day was ruined by me finding an antisemitic graffiti on a public building. Today my day was ruined by seeing an uncensored photo of a babushka killed by the shelling. Hope you guys are having a better time.

[lego_joker]

Would it really have been better if they did? You know how badly Americans can misread injustices happening overseas - or worse, blame exactly the wrong people.

[cainofdreaming]

We've had 25 to 30 celsius weather here in Finland for a bit now. And, frankly, it's getting to me. I'm just not built for these temperatures.

And, oh joy, they seem to have become an every summer thing.

[thezmage]

Capcom just announced a Mega Man Battle Network collection.

I am very, deeply angry about all of this (not the Battle Network thing) and it's a very omnidirectional anger right now. I don't know what, if anything, else I can say about that.

I've been playing a lot of Squardle when I need to waste time lately. My new favorite Wordle-like: https://fubargames.se/squardle/

Started watching Strange New Worlds recently. I very much enjoy this show (especilly Spock and T'Pring being a bickering, overly dramatic couple by Vulcan standards), but not all of the plotlines have been llowed to breathe IMO.

Attended a wedding this weekend as a friend of the bride. I don't want to tell people her new name for privacy reasons, but she now has the perfect comic book newscaster name. Her first name and last name now start with the same two letters and end with the same last letter.

I'm listening to a podcast called the Vanishing Act right now, which is very funny farce but hampered slightly by choosing to set it in the 30s and partially in Germany, including a German character who lies about being Jewish in America so people won't think he's a Nazi. From the FAQ on their website: "The Vanishing Act also includes recurring mentions to the rise of fascism and Nazi-ism in Europe during the 1930s. The show is a satire that does not shy away from issues of antisemitism and oppression, as well as the complacency of the larger public (including some of our main characters), but with a conscious effort to avoid harmful storytelling that may be “punching down” against marginalized groups. The goal is to always have the humor be used as a weapon against the would-be oppressors. We recognize the importance that storytelling has, and the responsibility of satirical works in walking the lines that they do, and maintain that just because a certain behavior is presented humorously does not mean it is to be emulated or even tolerated." To their credit, I do not believe that they are making light of Nazism, but I do feel like they're using it to get a bit of cultural cache that they haven't actually earned. It had a crossover with Forgive Me recently which makes it sound like the second season is a bit Doctor Who-ish.

If anyone wants some codes for digital copies of European scifi comics (primarily Valerian), I just noticed that a recent Humble Bundle gave me several redundant codes (I got one code for each pledge level and the last one gave me all of the comics from all of the pledge levels, so I have codes for lower pledge levels). They're provided through a service called Izneo which looks like a European, unruined comixology. Contact me if you want one of the codes.

[zachbeacon]

Wait, why would Battle Network inspire rage? It’s a subseries of the Mega Man series I admit that I don’t know much about.

My cousin married a woman who gave up an awesome last name for, well, my family’s fairly common but weirdly spelled last name. I assume that’s how you know its love.

Huh, glad you said something about that recent Cinebook bundle. I’m so used to the comic bundles just being ebook files.

[llordllama]

Handed in my notice on one of my two jobs - with some regrets, but my other job (which pays marginally more and definitely has better prospects) is in the process of expanding my role and making me full-time there. Which is great, but after 7 years in the other post I'm a little sad to wave farewell to the other role.

Treated myself to Spidy-No Way, as I've yet to see it (and since Multiverse is now on D+ feel I'd like to watch them together) - now I just to find a few hours to sit and watch them.

What I have been watching (Kenobi, Marvel, Kim's Convenient Legend of the Ten Rings aside) is the first season of classic British sitcom 'The Fall and Rise of Reggie Perrin', which is academically fascinating as an examination of a by-gone era of work. And weirdly, laugh out loud funny in places still. I can *almost* recall seeing an episode or two in the early 80s, but this is the first time I've watched it from the beginning. Considering the TV landscape at the time and its comparator mid-70s sitcoms, it is wildly innovative. It is also flagrantly of its era in places too - and my eyebrows have (figuratively) shot off at times with some of the lines.

I've also been watching the Season 22 Doctor Who boxset - a lot of which I've not seen since they first aired. Not sure I'm looking forward to Timelash.

Finished The Relentless Moon last night, a book I devoured with as much pleasure as the previous two Lady Astronaut series. Roll on book 4!

[iamrman]

Remind me about Timelash again?

[owlbrigade1]

I liked the Obi Wan series. I've seen reports that it was envisaged as a trilogy and this was just part one, but I'm not sure I want to see that. I feel it told a nice story, with a proper beginning middle and end, and it filled character gaps without getting too much into the weeds and murk of continuity. I don't see any subsequent seasons adding much to that.

[icon_uk]

Agreed, this seemed to fill the Obi-Wan character arc needed to get from the end of RotS and the start of ANH, anything else might seem like gilding the lily.

Though it's perhaps a shame that ANH set up that Ben had had no real contact with Luke at all. It might have been nice if we even found out that some small, seemingly pointless things he might have taught Luke as a kid whilst doing odd jobs for Beru and Owen around the farm were handy in his later Jedi training, even if he wasn't the one doing the training for most of it.

I wasn't TOO sure about Reva going to Tattooine, as that's a place which shouldn't draw any Dark Side attention. If Vader or Palpatines wonders why Third Sister went BACK there, of all places, after nearly being killed, for example.

[melplayspersonal]

I finally went and downloaded the Fire Emblem Warriors : Three Hopes demo, since most of my friends seem to be enjoying the actual game. I like FE, but not W, and as a result, I'm enjoying literally everything BUT the combat... which, in a combat-based game, is probably not great. However, I really loved the characters in Three Houses, which is making me want to get the full game regardless. You darn likeable kids... And if anything happens to Alois, I will set things on fire.

The teaser trailer for Hocus Pocus 2 is out, and just on principle I ain't watching it. Some things are sacred, man! I'm gunna do my best to pretend it doesn't exist.

I've been rewatching Batman : The Animated Series for nostalgia, and even going in knowing it's such a great show, it's still so amazing to see how wonderful it can be in animation and writing. Last one I watched before tying these was Feats Of Clay - you can't have nightmare fuel like that without great animation!

In more personal news, my little sister is getting married on Friday - and before all the "Aw, congrats!" pile in, let me just say to hold those back. I'm basically being forced to skip a day of pay to celebrate one of my childhood bullies. My dad said the appetizers alone will take 2 hours and tried to phrase that as a good thing. So if anyone has any good time-killing reddit-subs for me to read, they'd be appreciated for the big day.

[thezmage]

Best of Redditor Updates gives you a complete story in nearly every post.

AmITheAsshole is a classic, but the two subreddits I've found that mock them I've found to be even funnier (Am I the Angel and Am I The Devil), although Angel focuses a little more on calling bullshit on the stories, so avoid that if you prefer the kayfabe.

[pyynk]

Went to my first comic book convention since 2019 and lemme tell ya - navigating an event like that with a mask is absolutely a challenge. I have even more respect for the folks who don't work remotely and have to do so on a daily basis. That said it was really great to see friends who I haven't been able to see for ... yikes three years. It was also nice to attend a Walt Simonson panel and hear him talk about the creation of Beta Ray Bill and the Loki Disney+ series. Also for anyone wondering if Chris Schwitzer is *really* as nice in person as he seems to be online, I can confirm it's a solid fact as I saw him talk to two younger artists about next steps in their careers with a level of kindness I thought was reserved for heartwarming stories about cat cafes. Finally I did pick up three sketches I'll have to share sometime soon.

[icon_uk]

Glad you had fun! I'm not sure I'm quite at the "Going to cons" stage yet, but I'll get there.

I'm unfamiliar with Chris Schwitzer I think, would I know him from anything?

[malurette]

I posted a couple of Heartstopper ficlets on AO3 yesterday and my stats exploded instantly. Wow, what a change from my usual fandom-of-one fics! it's almost frightening.

[scorntx]

Congrats.
(Assuming the stats are mostly good things and people liking the stories, and not just randos moaning.)

[tripodeca113]

Recently I learnt about a show called Supernatural Academy. There was a horrible moment when I thought it was a spin-off of...well take a wild guess, but mercifully it's unrelated.

I also learnt that the powers that be at HBO (or whoever owns them) has decided to make a Game of Thrones sequel show. The ending certainly raised a lot of questions, but I doubt anyone can fix that mess.

Avatar Studios is committed to make more Avatar related stuff. They seem to be making a CGI movie about Avatar Kyoshi. Apparently someone who claims to have insider information, said that the other two movies their making, will be about Zuko and Korra respectively.

Maybe I'll start re-reading Usagi Yojimbo again.

[remial]

I just started the first of the Dark Horse phone books of the UY, got it for $8 at the local used CD store (which oddly enough doesn't carry CDs anymore, but still has the name). So far I'm liking it.

[remial]

I was working on a couple things the other night, and hit random play on the old MP3 collection on my harddrive, and ended up binging and then watching the classic 1978 Superman movie. For my money, that initial helicopter rescue has got to be THE best superhero reveal to the public ever made*. and short of Elfman's Batman in '89, the best score ever as well.

* Say what you will about Superman Returns, but the rescue of the jet was damn good as well.

"Statistically speaking, flying is still the safest way to travel."

[bradygirl_12]

Character will out: Trump throwing his food and dishes on the floor for others to clean up is him in a nutshell. Yanking the tablecloth to make more of a mess is just lovely. Pity the poor kitchen staff.

Somehow I don't picture FDR, Truman or JFK throwing their lunch against the wall. Nor do I recall hearing that they attacked Secret Service agents. Looks like the agents need protection from Trump! 🙄

[zachbeacon]

It's the attempt at literal backseat driving that gets me. He knows the agent still controls the brakes, right?