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The Ms. Marvel finale had some major changes for Kamala's character, one that will likely impact the MCU.


That's right... Kamala is no longer an Inhuman. She's a MUTANT. Complete with the X-Men animated series music. Will she be on the X-Men? Will this impact the comics via synergy? Only time will tell.

Ike Perlmutter's reaction:


Date: 2022-07-13 11:56 am (UTC)
iamrman: (Sindr)
From: [personal profile] iamrman
Ooh, interesting. Just when I was losing interest in the show as well.
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Date: 2022-07-13 12:01 pm (UTC)
dc2houseofmystery: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dc2houseofmystery
In the context of the MCU, does it matter? Does it change the foundation of Kamala's character if she's a mutant and not an Inhuman?

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Date: 2022-07-13 12:10 pm (UTC)
deh_tommy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
Whelp, there goes any hope of Lockjaw or anything from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. showing up ever again…

What’s her mutant powers?

Date: 2022-07-14 04:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] coldfury
All the Inhumans and Shield TV show stuff (plus anything Marvel TV pre Disney+ outside *maybe* the netflix shows) has pretty much been declared non-canon. Multiverse of Madness cameos aside.

Date: 2022-07-13 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blueprintstyles
Wow, I didn't realize the Inhumans has that much stink to the franchise, I hope this won't reflect in the comics.

Date: 2022-07-13 12:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] laughing_tree
The Eternals screenwriters were specifically told they couldn't use Hawaii as a setting, solely because the Inhumans TV show was set there. The stink is real.

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Date: 2022-07-13 01:06 pm (UTC)
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My general reaction was: Okay so what?

The only reason Inhumans got the push they did in the comics is because Marvel was mad that they weren't getting that X-men movie money because they sold the movie rights to the X-men to Sony and they weren't giving it back, So they were trying to actively push Mutants into the background/kill them off due to stupid petty industry bullshit.

Aside from having Lockjaw as a sidekick, Kamala has never really had any real meaningful interaction with the main inhuman stuff. She doesn't live in Attilan, she doesn't interact with the royal family (Which I think is generally a good thing because I think if Kamala spend more than five minutes in Attilan her response would be "Man fuck this place you guys are all abelist elitist assholes AND ARE THOSE SLAVES LIKE WHAT THE FUCK?")

Heck, if they really wanted to be petty they could have done what they did with Squirrel Girl and said "Well, she's not technically a mutant because a different part of her DNA is altered, so she's legally distinct from being a mutant."

So yeah, make Kamala a Mutant. Hell make Lunella a mutant too while we're at it I know she has a show upcoming soon.

Date: 2022-07-13 01:42 pm (UTC)
windleopard2: (Default)
From: [personal profile] windleopard2
(Which I think is generally a good thing because I think if Kamala spend more than five minutes in Attilan her response would be "Man fuck this place you guys are all abelist elitist assholes AND ARE THOSE SLAVES LIKE WHAT THE FUCK?")


Or whatever g-rated equivalent she can come up with.😁

On a serious note, I'm not really attached to Kamala being an Inhuman, but I would have preferred her not being swallowed up by the X-Men.

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Date: 2022-07-13 02:26 pm (UTC)
deh_tommy: Gavla from BIONICLE. For when I’m feeling argumentative, confrontational or altogether serious. (Gavla)
From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
And let them become canon fodder for whatever big obligatory mutant culling they’ll eventually do? Or worse, what if they end up on Krakoa?

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Date: 2022-07-13 03:36 pm (UTC)
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" (Which I think is generally a good thing because I think if Kamala spend more than five minutes in Attilan her response would be "Man fuck this place you guys are all abelist elitist assholes AND ARE THOSE SLAVES LIKE WHAT THE FUCK?")"

A) There were no slaves by the time Kamala was around.

B) Krakoa says hi.

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Date: 2022-07-16 08:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] steverodgers5
I don't think more of this petty industry bs is a good thing. After all, two wrongs don't make a right.

Plus the more they get away with these sweeping alterations to characters backgrounds and powers the more it'll embolden them to do even more of that in all their future adaptions.

Date: 2022-07-13 01:38 pm (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
A funny thought, but Ike is not all that involved with Marvel these days so he might not care either way. Not to mention that this is happening because Marvel studios has the rights to the X-Men now.

Date: 2022-07-13 01:38 pm (UTC)
windleopard2: (Default)
From: [personal profile] windleopard2
Wow. They actually went there.

Date: 2022-07-13 02:27 pm (UTC)
beyondthefringe: (Default)
From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
Okay, cool. So they're introducing mutants. So Kamala gets to be a mutant. It doesn't bother me any, because in the big picture, her being an Inhuman was never that big a part of her overall identity, save as a convenient origin method. She associated with the Royal Family for a brief time at the start, ran into some other Inhumans along the way, but it was never a real serious part of who she was.

So now she gets to be associated with mutants so far as "your powers come from something inherent to your genetic makeup" and with the Clandestine as "the family you can't choose who may also be working against you" where Kamran still fills that role...

I'm happy as long as they keep the heart of the character, the Kamala of it all, and they were faithful to that much.

Date: 2022-07-13 03:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lordultimus
If they make Kamala part of Cultural Erasure Island, it sure will change the character.

Date: 2022-07-13 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thumbs13
After guessing on every single show out there, they finally found the one that introduces mutants.

But I'm really not a fan of this change, it feels like interconnectedness for the sake of it. Just like with the power change, this was done for a wider connection to other characters, but in this case the other characters don't even exist yet. Kamala Khan being the first mutant in the MCU is insane.

Date: 2022-07-13 09:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shakalooloo
Well, the first character onscreen to be told she's got a mutation. Presumably there are others out there that we, the audience, have not seen yet.

Better this way than some clash of multiverses just thrusting the X-Men directly into the MCU.

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Date: 2022-07-13 02:56 pm (UTC)
lordultimus: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lordultimus
Seems pretty dumb, the X-Men are just as elitist as the Inhumans now.

Date: 2022-07-13 04:00 pm (UTC)
deh_tommy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
MCU X-Men will hopefully be different from modern day comic X-Men.

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Date: 2022-07-13 03:08 pm (UTC)
dewinged: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dewinged
Eh, no biggie. We won't be getting anything else on this ending for another year at least.

Date: 2022-07-13 04:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lucean
While I like the tease of introducing the Mutants into the MCU, I have to admit that this was kind of puzzling as it makes no sense within the show that Kamala is a mutant. Like her powers were so tied to the larger storyline that having it instead be a mutant was just confusing. Especially after Kamran gets the same powers.

Date: 2022-07-13 06:24 pm (UTC)
deh_tommy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
What are her powers? Does she get to embiggen now or is it still Quasar’s energy constructs?

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Date: 2022-07-13 05:02 pm (UTC)
thanekos: Seiga Kaku from Touhou 13, shadowed. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
" Whatever it is, it's just gonna be a different wiki category. "

Date: 2022-07-13 06:38 pm (UTC)
dewinged: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dewinged
But, I was right about Marvel finding a way to shoehorn Kamala into every franchise/team/group they have.

(I say this as someone who likes the character, but man, let other characters have a turn.)

Waiting to see how they'd write her onto Power Pack...

Date: 2022-07-13 09:06 pm (UTC)
shakalooloo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] shakalooloo
She did get onto the Avengers way too early.

Date: 2022-07-13 09:04 pm (UTC)
shakalooloo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] shakalooloo
The actual, precise origin of Kamala's powers is the least interesting thing about her character. Were she created in another era, under a different editorial mandate, her comics counterpart could easily be a mutant, or been doused with radioactive chemicals or whatever.

I'm more interested by the post-credits scene, which promises some suitable wackiness for 'The Marvels'.

Date: 2022-07-13 10:04 pm (UTC)
deh_tommy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
Ooh, do tell? If you don’t mind, that is.

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Date: 2022-07-14 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
... other people have explained the matter more eloquently, so I'm not going to say much on it.

But as someone who's been saying they should just have Mutants be there without some big overcomplicated explanation for years...
yay, I guess.

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