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Siege ends in April and it seems that Marvel has decided to end all four of its core Avengers books with the event (and presumably relaunch them in the Summer). IGN has the solicits here.


Pencils by TIM GREEN II


The staggering conclusion to the SIEGE arc delves into the Hood's secret relationship with Norman Osborn and how it will affect the stunning outcome.

Plus the fate of the one they call Mockingbird! What you don't see in SIEGE, you will see here!!

32 PGS./Rated A …$3.99

Wait, what's happening to Mockingbird?

Pencils & Cover by BRYAN HITCH

In the wake of SIEGE, an ALL NEW shocking conclusion to the landmark NEW AVENGERS series. NEW AVENGERS is coming to an end…but not without a bang. For the first time ever, series regular
Brian Bendis teams up with the superstar artist that reinvented team books for this generation…Bryan Hitch.

The entirety of the Marvel landscape has changed and many Avengers do not know their place in it. But before they can move on, some very important loose ends need to be tied up. A.K.A. it's payback time!! All this and a bevy of super star artists stop by to pay tribute to the work they made famous over the course of this top-selling book.

64 PGS./One-Shot/Rated A …$4.99


Pencils & Cover by MIKE DEODATO


Series Finale!! What?! Marvel's number one ongoing series is coming to an end?! What could possibly happen in the last chapter of SIEGE that is so intense as to bring this crazy chapter in Marvel history to a close??!! Well, clearly we can't tell you here but there will be a funeral and the fate of Norman Osborn Will. Be. Decided!!

32 PGS./Rated T+ …$3.99

Written by DAN SLOTT
Pencils & Cover by KHOI PHAM



SERIES FINALE! While the Mighty Avengers are fighting on the front lines of SIEGE, can HANK PYM and JOCASTA stop the Avenger's greatest enemy, ULTRON, by themselves? Or will Pym-Space become the ultimate staging ground for a cybernetic-assault on all of reality? See SIEGE through the eyes of the Avengers with the most to lose!

The Dark Reign is ending, the Age of Heroes is coming, but before that can happen... there's a wedding? And more than one character is thinking, "What would Janet Van Dyne do?" We can't be any more cryptic than that. Trust us, you don't want to miss this one.

32 PGS./Rated A …$2.99

Hank's marrying Jocasta isn't he? Ew.

Penciled by JORGE MOLINA


This is it: the series finale – and the end of the Initiative as we know it! Learn the fate of your favorite heroes, villains... and those who aren't quite sure what they are, but who are going to have to decide in a hurry!

Who will taste sweet victory? Who will know the agony of defeat? For some this is an end -- for others, a new beginning (which you'll be reading about very soon)! Camp H.A.M.M.E.R. is falling...and The Heroic Age is dawning!

32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

I think that the series replacing the Initiative was announced a few months back. Avengers Academy by Gage and Mckone, don't quote me on that though.

Also apparently there are going to be a number of one shots at the end of Siege. No covers or solicits yet.

Siege: Loki
Siege: Spider-Man
Siege: Captain America
Siege: Young Avengers
Siege: Secret Warriors

Date: 2010-01-16 12:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] punishermax
The worst part of the 00's was John Romita Jr's run on Amazing.

There, I said it.

Date: 2010-01-16 12:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] box_in_the_box
I wouldn't rate it as the "worst," but even as someone who occasionally liked what JMS did on Amazing Spider-Man, JRjr's art really does not live up to the hype.

He was actually a MUCH better artist in the '80s, when his figures were slightly more cubist, but much more stylized and detailed, versions of what his dad drew, but Jesus, ever since he became King Of The Box People, he's been shit.

Date: 2010-01-16 01:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] punishermax
Not just the art too. His art is okay and all, but I'll NEVER understand why that run is worshipped around here.

Terrible villains, runs of Peter/MJ stuff that felt like Will and Grace fanfiction, Hell it even led into the atrocious Other arc.

Date: 2010-01-16 01:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] box_in_the_box
Bear in mind, everything from "Sins Past" forward was pretty much Joe Quesada telling JMS, "Hey, remember when we said we wouldn't touch one word of what you wrote? Yeah? Well, HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA."

That being said, it's a deeply uneven run at best, that shines more for the fact that a) it followed what is (now) the (second) worst run of Spider-Man in its entire published history, and b) it actually took some chances.

Now, granted, the second part was a profoundly mixed bag, because for every great story like Aunt May learning the secret, or every great idea like Peter becoming a teacher, you had just as many shit ones in the bargain, even before Quesada basically started wiping his ass with JMS's scripts - every single aspect of the Spider-Totem mythos, for example, was 100-percent terrible, from Ezekiel to Morlun, all of whom were Author's Pet characters to whom everyone else jobbed, and the one potentially decent aspect of that whole mess (ie. plugging Peter, the wisecracking superhero, into the mythos of Anansi, the trickster spider who was as much a cosmic anarchist as Coyote) was bungled in favor of a retread of I AM THE SPIDER GRAAAHHH.

That being said, for all its faults (and it had many), it remains vastly superior to what had come immediately before, and what came immediately after.

And the fucked-up thing is, even the current shit-tastic era of OMD/BND wouldn't necessarily be THAT bad, if it was done right.

Date: 2010-01-16 01:18 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] punishermax
What bugs me about the "better than OMD" thing is that it seems like it';s become the rallying cry for a lot of people I've read who praise it. Just because being hit in the dick with a sledgehammer is AWFUL that doesn't make a hit with a baseball bat a Christmas miracle either.

Again, I find BND annoying at this point, and even with my boredom of MJ/Peter, I know it was a terrible idea, but that run was not wine and roses simply because they were married.

I bought a volume of it on a whim because of all the love it got and it was frigging terrible. The totem shit, the terrible "Comdey" issues with MJ's Hollywood Hijinx that felt like a bad sitcom.

The villains sucked too. That weird dark woman thing that was bragging about doing Spider-Man? That led to his remarkable idiotic decison to ATTACK A WOMAN ON LIVE TELEVISION. I'm serious when I say that she could have stayed in human form and taken the punch and DESTROYED Pete's entire reputation. That was an insanely dumb move.

Date: 2010-01-16 01:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] box_in_the_box
Dude, since when have you known ME to praise ANYTHING except on a purely CONDITIONAL basis? If anything, I share your nerdrage about how overrated certain parts of that run are - I HATED when everyone was all OMG EZEKIEL AND MORLUN ARE THE BEST NEW CHARACTERS EVAR, and Shathra (the Spider-Wasp) was a horribly executed, shitty shell of a character (example of JMS's internally inconsistent writing - when Shathra is introduced, we're told that she's beyond any vestige of human emotion, but at the end, she's begging Spider-Man for "MERCY," a concept that JMS had already established she does not even comprehend, much less possess).

Date: 2010-01-16 01:27 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] punishermax
Ever notice how whenever we have discussions, the topic invariable will have at least 50 comments or more?

Date: 2010-01-16 01:29 am (UTC)
box_in_the_box: (Default)
From: [personal profile] box_in_the_box
It's because, even when we agree, we manage to do it LOUDLY.




Date: 2010-01-16 01:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] punishermax
Way to present your opinions in a coherent fashion dickbag.

Your debate tactics remind me of Sarte you bag of douche

Date: 2010-01-16 01:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lultam

Date: 2010-01-16 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
I think JMS run had some good points and some bad points. Just like Spider-man in general.

That said, I think it's pretty much impossible to write truly "Great" Spider-man stuff. (too many constraints) the best you can get is "good" stuff (which I'm happy to buy) and every run throws up SOME good stuff. (it's the ratio of "good" to "dreck" that is important)

Date: 2010-01-16 01:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kingrockwell
I don't think Will and Grace is the show you're thinking about. Will and Grace was about a straight girl and a gay guy who were best friends, so no real romance going between them.
Maybe Mad About You? They were at least married in that.


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