Date: 2011-08-25 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
The semi-subtle jabs at the citizenship story and Grounded were funny, but this was a great scene--definitely worthy of being the "final" scene of the two in Action Comics...for now. :)

BTW, on your creator tags--Rocafort didn't draw this issue, he left Action at around #902, probably to draw Red Hood.

Date: 2011-08-25 05:47 am (UTC)
aaron_bourque: default (Default)
From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
. . . SEEE? This is all you needed. One conversation with Lois.

One awesome conversation.

But alas, the marriage is over.

Stupid reboot.

Date: 2011-08-25 05:54 pm (UTC)
sailorlibra: (lois smiling)
From: [personal profile] sailorlibra
THIS.

Date: 2011-08-25 06:26 am (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
The Spider-Man thing was a much different situation though since we didn't know that the devil divorce was a sure thing when that issue rolled. IIRC that annual got a lot of people's hopes up that Marvel wasn't going to fuck over the marriage.

In this case we know and have known the marriage-haters have won, I'm not gonna fault a writer for stopping before that to eulogize these characters as they were (while also apologizing for the last year or so of breathtakingly stupid Superman stories) (also, that Martian Manhunter joke was kinda good).

Date: 2011-08-25 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] nightauditguy
Here's to hoping they get together in DCnu.

/And here's to hoping I win the lottery.

Date: 2011-08-25 06:27 am (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
As read from previews, new Superman seems like a douchebag, so I'm kind of hoping Lois can do better.

Date: 2011-08-25 08:57 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
It's Lois Lane and Superman, the odds of them NOT getting together (eventually) is about the same as the sky spontaneously turning charteuse with orange polka-dots.

Date: 2011-08-25 10:07 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
This. We'll probably just end up with DC dancing around the issue for about twenty years until Didio, Johns and Lee are finally evicted when they're doddering old men, and then some nostalgic 80's/90's kid will decide to put the marriage back together again.

Date: 2011-08-25 11:13 am (UTC)
thokstar: Spot (Default)
From: [personal profile] thokstar
the sky spontaneously turning charteuse with orange polka-dots.

In the DCU? That's just the Grand Rider of Ambivalence attacking Earth.

Date: 2011-08-25 11:24 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Ah yes, "Ennui on Infinite Whatevers..."

Date: 2011-08-25 01:02 pm (UTC)
mullon: (Jade Curtiss)
From: [personal profile] mullon
I'm not sure about that, Morrison likes to destroy things in comics just to say that he did. I could easily see him setting them up with other people, or doing something to fuck up their relationship.

Date: 2011-08-25 01:08 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Hmm, I'd have said he was much more known for keeping a lot of older stuff around where most would choose to ignore it en masse (Such as his declaration that basically modern day Batman still went through, or a near approximation of, everything that happened in the Silver Age.

Date: 2011-08-25 02:48 pm (UTC)
drmcninja: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drmcninja
And plus you can't expect them to move too far in that direction too fast, considering the sheer amount of hate Marvel is getting for Carlie. They have to learn something from that if they want to make this work for even a little bit.

Date: 2011-08-25 08:38 pm (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Funny, because he's been an advocate of the marriage since the Superman pitch he made years ago got rejected. Given the placing of Lois with another man is already taking place in Superman and not Action Comics, I think any efforts to ruin the marriage are more down to editorial than Morrison.

Date: 2011-08-25 06:46 am (UTC)
brilliantnova: (Default)
From: [personal profile] brilliantnova
I get the idea Lois/the writer is trying to get across. I just got all heebie jeebie when she bought Hitler and Stalin into it.
It was just weird.

Date: 2011-08-25 09:27 am (UTC)
espanolbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] espanolbot
I got more of a "the worst of humanity tried to use your names to describe themselves, but when people think about Superman or the Man of Steel... they think of you Clark, the best of us!".

The good outshining the bad, as it were.

Date: 2011-08-25 08:23 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Except Hitler and Stalin both predate Superman by decades (in this continuity) so they didn't use HIS name, he used THEIRS.

Or rather, they both used Nietzche. He put "Ubermensch/Superman" forward as a concept in 1885.

Date: 2011-08-25 07:16 am (UTC)
tauruschick12: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tauruschick12
CLOIS MY LOVE NOT YOU TOO

We need another clois week, man. Something to counteract this depression I feel.

Date: 2011-08-25 07:35 am (UTC)
golden_orange: trust me, i'm wearing a vegetable. (Default)
From: [personal profile] golden_orange
Damn, I'll miss scenes like this.

I'm willing to give it a go, but the new status quo with Superman better be f**kin' amazing to justify losing this...

Date: 2011-08-25 10:10 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Morrison is calling his new Superman 'the Bruce Springsteen Superman'. OF COURSE it's going to be fucking amazing.



*obvious sarcasm is obvious*

Date: 2011-08-25 12:00 pm (UTC)
kenn_el: Northstar_Hmm (Default)
From: [personal profile] kenn_el
Springsteen married a model/actress before settling on Lana Lang for the long haul. Is that what Morrison meant?

Date: 2011-08-25 03:27 pm (UTC)
citygod: (Default)
From: [personal profile] citygod
oh, nicely done...

Date: 2011-08-25 06:45 pm (UTC)
cleome45: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cleome45
[sputter]

I'm probably the only New Jerseyite ever that can't abide the man's music. At all.

Date: 2011-08-25 07:48 am (UTC)
proteus_lives: (Default)
From: [personal profile] proteus_lives
And then the Reboot Monster killed them both.

Date: 2011-08-25 09:07 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
And not even the GOOD Rebbot Monster

Date: 2011-08-25 11:57 am (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
"Clark, coming from Krypton didn't make you Superman, Martha and Jonathan did."

I've said a line like that should be in the next Superman movie, but somehow I never thought Lois would say it. She hit the proverbial nail on the head. Cool.

Also, I'll give the Post-Flashpoint "Lois and Clark aren't together" status quo a chance if we get a new "Here's how Lois and Clark fell in love" story out of it.

Date: 2011-08-26 11:55 pm (UTC)
bruinsfan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
I feel like that line should be tattooed in reverse on Didio's forehead so he has to read it every time he shaves or brushes his teeth.

Date: 2011-08-25 12:04 pm (UTC)
kenn_el: Northstar_Hmm (Default)
From: [personal profile] kenn_el
The problem with the issue was that the wonderful last scene was tacked onto a horrible 'event' that just dragged on and on, and affected too many characters at points where they didn't need to be dragged into the mess. The problem is that we have no indication that NEW DC will avoid the big mess stuff (despite their protestations about not writing for trades), but certainty that they're willing to toss out the good stuff, as in the dinner scene.

Date: 2011-08-25 12:24 pm (UTC)
an_idol_mind: (Default)
From: [personal profile] an_idol_mind
Good scene. Unfortunately, it reminds me of A) how stupid and useless "Grounded" was, and B) how DC feels it necessary to throw out a good husband/wife relationship so they can tell the same "will they or won't they" story that they told from 1938 to 1996. Because nearly 60 years of the story apparently wasn't enough.

I'm going to try to put the marriage out of my mind and enjoy the stories that are coming, but it's just annoying to me that one of the only superheroes out there who has had a good marriage and a stable family life is getting his marriage magically annulled and his parents killed off so he can have the same status quo that just about every other superhero in comics has.

Date: 2011-08-25 12:41 pm (UTC)
werehawk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] werehawk
Y'know, I was a very verbal OMD basher. I LOVED Peter and MJ. And I still agree with that, but from an editorial/story perspective, its the moment that they get together and get married that is important on an emotional level. Who doesn't remember the first kiss of their favorite fictional characters (right now Im thinking Chuck/Sarah on CHUCK)?

So, if Supes and Lois get together, and together in the right way, it would be good from a more novice reader perspective (and what DC wants is new readers). What has been wrong with Spidey/MJ has been 1) The devil stole the marriage - with MJ's consent! and 2) the execution and Peter's attitude towards women and 3) the reason: Spidey is better single, implying he will never be married again.

Date: 2011-08-25 12:56 pm (UTC)
an_idol_mind: (Default)
From: [personal profile] an_idol_mind
I think the big worry is that editorial won't let the marriage actually return. If they do build up a satisfying relationship and deliver, it's a moot point. But the comics industry in general seems very phobic of an actual married couple, and DC seems intent on restoring the Silver/Bronze Age tension with no implication that we'll get a payoff.

Date: 2011-08-25 06:37 pm (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
IDK man I don't actually remember Lois and Clark's first kiss. I don't even think I bought the wedding issue.

I remember the hell out of a lot of the comics they did after they got married though.

Saying the moment they get married is the important moment is like saying they're like frozen in place from that moment onward. Married characters are still characters just like married people are still people, they can and do still do all kinds of interesting emotional shit. They just, you know, do it together.

Date: 2011-08-25 06:40 pm (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
I mean IDK Lois and Clark have been at least dating for as long back ago as I was a New Reader and it didn't bother me! I was all for the hero and his lady being together and not constantly having them be almost about to get together for some dumb fucking contrived reason, I got enough of that shit from the Legend of Zelda cartoon.

Date: 2011-08-25 06:41 pm (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
IDK why I use IDK so much it's kind of weird IDK IDK IDK

Date: 2011-08-25 06:42 pm (UTC)
thehefner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehefner
Motto to all this. I actually feel the same way about Peter and MJ at their best. The moments of them being a functional couple stick in my mind far more than any of the big romantic events or what have you.

Date: 2011-08-25 06:48 pm (UTC)
cleome45: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cleome45
Yeah. So much of pop culture is already obsessed with "first romantic whatever" to the exclusion of anything that happens afterward. Drives me up the wall, and I felt that way long before I actually got hitched. :/

Date: 2011-08-25 07:42 pm (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
PFFFT you would say that you BORING MARRIED PERSON

Date: 2011-08-25 07:47 pm (UTC)
thehefner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehefner
How DARE you insinuate that? Why, I'm simply a boring happily engaged person with a child out of wedlock SO WE'RE STILL WORTHWHILE CHARACTERS DON'T KILL US JOSS WHEDON.

Date: 2011-08-25 07:55 pm (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
happy

engaged

with a child

Joss is literally outside your home with a sniper rifle and a laser sight

Date: 2011-08-25 07:58 pm (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
Ask yourself, right now

could I be said to bear a faint resemblance to Alan Tudyk

Date: 2011-08-25 01:03 pm (UTC)
mullon: (Azula)
From: [personal profile] mullon
I feel like I should pick this up, just to have it.

Date: 2011-08-25 02:16 pm (UTC)
pyrotwilight: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pyrotwilight
*First page and panel* Jimmy, take off that ridiculously fake mustache right now!

Date: 2011-08-25 03:16 pm (UTC)
nezchan: Navis at breakfast (Default)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
And stop looking at porn on your iPad, you're in public man!

Date: 2011-08-25 05:38 pm (UTC)
crabby_lioness: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crabby_lioness
See, this is the kind of writing we could have ALL THE TIME if it didn't keep getting interrupted by those stupid "events". Why can't we have nice things?

Date: 2011-08-25 06:41 pm (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
Nice things don't sell (to the very tiny number of people to whom comics still sell)

Date: 2011-08-25 08:45 pm (UTC)
crabby_lioness: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crabby_lioness
Fuck that. When are comics going to adapt a "Blue Ocean" strategy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Ocean_Strategy

Date: 2011-08-25 08:48 pm (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
I figure around the same time, give or take, as the Democratic Party.

Date: 2011-08-25 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredneil.livejournal.com
Why would anyone want to change this?

Date: 2011-08-27 03:54 am (UTC)
timgueugen: (Default)
From: [personal profile] timgueugen
Can't say I like how Clark is draw here.

Date: 2011-08-27 02:26 pm (UTC)
rdfox: Joker asking Tim Drake, "'Sup?" from Paul Dini's "Slay Ride" (Default)
From: [personal profile] rdfox
Can I make a suggestion here, for a way to tell DC what we think of this reboot?

Everyone here... go out and buy a copy of EVERY "last issue" from August.

And then *don't* buy anything starting on the 31st. Show them a bump in readership at the *end* of the continuity, and then a dropoff with the reboot.

Even Dankor won't be able to spin that to his bosses.

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