Date: 2012-05-17 08:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
As much as I'm enjoying some elements of the DCnU - the idea of Clark Kent being a mopey loner whose only release is his superhero identity? That's another character beginning with 'S' entirely, DC.

Date: 2012-05-17 08:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] arbre_rieur
That's not a DCnU element. Johns was already pulling that act in the pre-Flashpoint days. And going back further, Silver Age Superman's defining characterization point was arguably his loneliness.

Date: 2012-05-17 08:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
I only saw that loneliness in the New Krypton stories and the 'Grounded' bullshit which actively pitted him against Lois at one point, as I recall. And Johns was only partially behind the New Krypton stuff. Again, it seems to be more of a prominent element here given we've seen him alone and brooding even in his Superman costume, but it's still laughable. So the guy looked like a nerd and didn't get picked in sports? It's not exactly the isolating weight around someone's neck that media makes it out to be. It's just annoying they've ran with such a bland cliché.

Date: 2012-05-18 01:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
*sigh* grounded had so much potential....

Date: 2012-05-17 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
That aspect of Superman was there since the very first Superman story--so long that it's more likely that Spider-Man got it from Superman, and not the other way around.

Date: 2012-05-17 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
I liked Birthright's explanation: that Clark's mopey loner act was just that. An act meant to keep anyone from suspecting that Clark and Superman were one and the same.

Date: 2012-05-17 04:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
The first Superman origin story I read was Birthright, so that might be why I find it fairly difficult to understand this current take on the character. To be honest, I think it's blatantly unnecessary. At this point, anyone who buys a Superman comic, watches a Superman movie, whatever, can suspend their disbelief that no-one picks up on Clark Kent being Superman, especially with the incredibly rubbish disguise.

Date: 2012-05-17 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gerardotejada
Im disapointed you havent seen the Superman Movies. I mean, there you got how Clark Kent is completly diferent in body lenguage and all.

Geoff obviously saw the movies so he is "burrowing" ideas.

Date: 2012-05-17 04:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Well, I have. And I love the first movie and the Donner cut of the second. But.. As great as Christopher Reeve is in both roles, I still don't buy that, realistically, no-one would just look at Superman's face and go "Hey Clark." One of the things I liked the most about All-Star Superman was the invoking of this, where I got the feeling that EVERYONE at the Daily Planet knew Clark was actually Superman but said nothing, and yet Luthor was completely unable to link the two.

Date: 2012-05-17 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gerardotejada
:( I wouldnt recognise him Reeve is too much actor for my eyes. I understand Luthor :)


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