Detective Comics #23.1
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A couple of years later. Ivy in college, where she experiments with early forms of her pheromone powers, making them pills she'd sell on her campus. She gets caught, arrested and was on the verge of expulsion.



Afterwards she scores an internship at Kane Chemicals, a division of Wayne Enterprises. Eventually she gets a meeting with Bruce Wayne himself, by using her pheromone research to grease the wheels and get her in his office, something usually no first year intern could accomplish. She points out this fact and pitches Bruce on using her pheromones as ways to influence people to say buy a product, effectively cutting the need for an advertising department. Obviously, Bruce finds some moral issues in Ivy's pitch.

As she's being forcibly escorted off the property, she attempts to gather her notes and in a struggle, gets doused in all her chemicals.

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Date: 2013-09-08 07:46 am (UTC)I'm not complaining so much about *changes* here, as much as... all of these Forever Evil stories are just boring.
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Date: 2013-09-08 09:50 am (UTC)I also understand what they're going for in replacing all the 'hero' books with villains for a month, but it seems weirdly spineless and dull; Why not go the whole hog and have the villains replace the heroes for several months as Forever Evil progresses? It'd be more interesting than a month's worth of origin rehashes which are less effective than the 'heroes and villains' pages they used to do, pre-reboot.
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Date: 2013-09-08 07:32 am (UTC)But I don't think adding childhood trauma to Pam's backstory is at all necessary or interesting though.
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Date: 2013-09-08 08:30 am (UTC)Yes, this backstory is less cluttered than the Flouronic Man one and it gives Pamela more agency, but at least the original backstory didn't have pseudo-incest.
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Date: 2013-09-08 10:32 am (UTC)BTAS - "Lock-Up"
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Date: 2013-09-08 12:39 pm (UTC)Yes, the research she had worked on, to this point, was focused on chemically controlling the mind of a target. Setting aside military applications for such a chemical (honestly, comic book black-box alphabet companies aren't likely to care about an NDA/Proprietary Rights contract clause,) the research she had worked on was an extremely valuable asset that could have easily been leveraged to a much more 'morally-north' use.
Medications today are still very hit or miss, sometimes to the point of trying to drive a finishing nail with a sledgehammer. This research sounds as though it has found one or more methods to exploit the human body to deliver a relatively narrow, maybe even precise, change. Send this research to a psych drug research division! Hell, promote her to "special researcher" and send her to the same division. (This allows for her to be kept somewhere to observe and -possibly- influence toward less amoral decisions, as well.) Hell, Bruce had to have known her background - if he had offered her a chance to address mental issues that hamper people from leaving bad situations (depression, anxiety can do terrible things to your belief that you can escape a bad relationship) she would have likely jumped at the provided offer, even know in that it was likely also being used to keep tabs on her.
#What-If
EDIT: (I should also have mentioned research for helping with treating other mental disorders, as well -the strip suggests the father(?) was possibly a sociopath, for instance.-)
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Date: 2013-09-08 02:09 pm (UTC)...Ivy sold date-rape pills?
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Date: 2013-09-08 03:16 pm (UTC)How about, like, she brought her father some flowers, like he did with her mother, faked an argument with him so she can throw the flowers into his face, which have been modified to induce an heavy allergic reaction to anyone with a delayed response to have him suffocate in his sleep?
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Date: 2013-09-08 07:36 pm (UTC)And I highly doubt a man who thinks what she wants to do is immoral and unethical his guards instantly remove someone from the premises without packing (why? - does she think she's a threat at that point) then says he'll give her a letter of recommendation. This is just not good storytelling. It comes as so contrived.
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Date: 2013-09-09 01:04 am (UTC)So it's Batman & Robin.
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Date: 2013-09-09 07:17 pm (UTC)You do not talk about Batman & Robin!
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Date: 2013-09-09 07:28 am (UTC)It's a shame that they didn't use the rest of her story to flesh that out a little more, instead of the generic 'cheated through school, swears revenge on those who don't appreciate their genius' backstory.