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I’ve asked DC Comics to send a preview copy to Christianity Today. No word yet on if they’ve done so. But I’d really like comics to take more and greater chances and to expand our audience beyond the traditional market. There are *billions* of dollars– with a “B” –to be made in the evangelical market. It mystifies me as to why neither DC nor Marvel are in it.

I doubt any Christian bookstore would carry Deathstroke #20, mainly because it questions religion as much as embraces it. With traditional Christian bookstore chains, there’s a certain quantity of Kool Aid that must be consumed, which misses the mark of Christ’s message by about a mile.

Great art, great books and great music are typically banned from these chains which insist on a kind of inoffensive rounding off of reality and adherence to an evangelical message. In my experience, questioning my faith has only strengthened it.

-- Christopher J. Priest

Date: 2017-07-06 03:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
okay... this is interesting....

Date: 2017-07-06 03:55 pm (UTC)
thanekos: Yoshikage Kira as Kosaku Kawajiri, after the second arrow. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
That suit's got to be one of those deals with kevlar sheeting.

Date: 2017-07-06 05:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
I get why more media isn't aimed at the religious market. Most creators types seem to be hostile to organized religion. They like using the imagery and sometimes the culture but any more than that....

Its a shame to because its super interesting. The theology relating to forgiveness and redemption on display here is soooo interesting. "Soon as I ask you to you have to forgive me". Well that is certainly one way to interpret scripture. But its not the way that most Catholic, Jew, and Protestant theologian would. How would she? What type of Christian is she? Has she even ever really thought about what the act of forgiveness really is? Will she now that Slade is putting her to the test?

It so interesting to me. IMO its much more interesting watching people struggle to act in accordance with their faith than writers simply dumbing religion down to "feel guilt while trying to be a 'good' person".

Date: 2017-07-06 06:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] miramira
Funny: I don't consider myself particularly faithful, and this still strikes me as such a self-serving, surface-level interpretation of forgiveness that it borders on offensive. Which may be the point, at least in terms of establishing what Slade's really doing here, but I suspect Christianity Today would just roll their eyes and tell Priest to come back when he's delved a bit deeper into the existing literature on the subject.

Date: 2017-07-06 06:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
he's using religion as a weapon here. he MIGHT be truthfully trying to change. But he's a weapons master and in order to CONVINCE her he is being serious, he has weaponized the bible... it's pretty brilliant. if we really do see slade, AND the others struggling with this idea of faith/forgiveness/Change etc, its gonna be interesting. Priest hasn't really let me down so as a Agnostic Catholic (it's complicated) I really want to see where this goes...

Date: 2017-07-06 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thezmage
I find that more people have a hard time dropping the "catholic" than any other religion I know of.

Date: 2017-07-06 10:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] miramira
I dunno. I feel like this is a pretty easy argument to dismantle, whether you can cite a counter-verse or not: forgiveness needs to be freely given, and you don't get to demand anything else in exchange. If she decides she wants to try and redeem him anyway, that could definitely have interesting possibilities, and maybe it's clearer that's what's going on in the rest of the issue. But here he just comes across like every atheist chatroom warrior ever, and I don't see much reason for her not to remain skeptical.

Date: 2017-07-06 07:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
I honestly don't know. I big discussions among many Christian thinkers (at least in Reformation branch) is how surface level many professing Christians are. "Know what you believe and why you believe it" is kinda a moto of the Reformational denominations and the sheer number of Christians, especially young Christians that couldn't give Slade a clear rebuttal here is alarming.

I would like to think they would see the issue that was being addressed here and not just write Priest off as another hack without at least glancing at his Wiki page.

Date: 2017-07-06 07:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Look, everyone! Slade is starting his own Titans! AGAIN!

Date: 2017-07-06 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
Hey, if a good idea is worth repeating, then a bad idea is... uh... also worth repeating, maybe?

Date: 2017-07-06 08:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stubbleupdate
I like to think that the guy with the moustache in the group panel is also a teen, but he shaved his hairline so that he can buy booze.

Date: 2017-07-06 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] remial
“The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
An evil soul producing holy witness
Is like a villain with a smiling cheek,
A goodly apple rotten at the heart.
O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!”

― Antonio, The Merchant of Venice Act 1 Scene 3, William Shakespeare

Date: 2017-07-07 12:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zechs80
Given it's Slade well your quote is given further merit. Probably why he used the puppy to soothe Tanya's heart. Even if well, Slade and dogs don't seem to go well in this ongoing.

Date: 2017-07-06 09:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
There's probably more discussion of the Christian faith than there has been in the last decade of Daredevil comics.

Date: 2017-07-07 05:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sarahnewlin
Or the ill fated Azarel/Nightcrawler story from Austen

Date: 2017-07-07 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
That one, to be fair, was more an ancient aliens storyline than anything else.

Still no idea what was going on in the storyline with the Rapture communion wafers and Antipope Kurt plan.

Date: 2017-07-07 05:24 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sarahnewlin
Poor Joseph. I hope he gets happy again


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