The Legend of Korra - Turf Wars
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"Avatar: The Last Airbender" and it's sequel "The Legend of Korra" featured some of the best worldbuilding of any cartoon series I've ever seen. The various societies were rich, and complex, and they included their resident elemental powers with creativity and practicality.

One area the cartoon did not expand on was how certain social matters were addressed, and the Korra finale, which showed Korra joining hands with Asami Sato, the woman she loves, as they step into the Spirit World, was positively subversive in showing a blossoming same sex relationship.
So it's good news that Turf Wats, the graphic novel continuation of the series, and which is written by Michael Dante DiMartino (one of the series co-creators), with line art by Irene Koh and colouring by Jane Bak and Vivian Ng, and which is considered canon with the cartoon (the series other creator Bryan Konietzko, is a consultant on the series), is addressing this;
So Korra and Asami have returned from the Spirit World and are ealing with matters arising from the the end of the series, during which the meet up with Kya, the daughter Aang and Katara, who reveals a bit more about her own life than we already knew.




So in four short pages, we have Kya outing herself to ourlesbian bizexual heroes, discussion of the Air Nomad, Water Tribe and Fire Nation attitude towards differing orientations, and the reveal that Kyoshi, a previous Avatar, was most likley bisexual. Now that's concsise storytelling!

One area the cartoon did not expand on was how certain social matters were addressed, and the Korra finale, which showed Korra joining hands with Asami Sato, the woman she loves, as they step into the Spirit World, was positively subversive in showing a blossoming same sex relationship.
So it's good news that Turf Wats, the graphic novel continuation of the series, and which is written by Michael Dante DiMartino (one of the series co-creators), with line art by Irene Koh and colouring by Jane Bak and Vivian Ng, and which is considered canon with the cartoon (the series other creator Bryan Konietzko, is a consultant on the series), is addressing this;
So Korra and Asami have returned from the Spirit World and are ealing with matters arising from the the end of the series, during which the meet up with Kya, the daughter Aang and Katara, who reveals a bit more about her own life than we already knew.




So in four short pages, we have Kya outing herself to our
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Date: 2017-08-19 09:49 pm (UTC)The guy started a war, attempted genocide, made hunting dragons a sport, which nearly led to their extinction, even when he had a dragon himself, corrupted the very thing his entire nation was founded on, and left his best friend to die...
But making the lives of his citizens worse is just beyond comprehension, apparently.
(Even though it does make a sort of horrific sense - if they're not allowed to love who they want, they get angry, which given the Fire Nation warped firebending to be based on anger and rage...)
... noting Kya never specifies what the Fire Lords after Sozin said, though.
Also, it's nice for Kya to get some focus. For all she was there, we didn't get much of a look into her past.
(Yeah, okay, tertiary character, but still.)
So Kyoshi: Punched out a shark-squid, founded her own state just as a "piss the hell off" gesture, was a mother of at least one child, and lived to over two hundred.
And yet she doesn't get her own series?! Where's the justice?
(And she's awesome. But that's redundant.)
Oh, by the by, when it says "graphic novel" continuation, that mean it's an actual graphic novel, or is it in comic form (and they're just calling it a graphic novel)?
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Date: 2017-08-19 10:36 pm (UTC)There is likely to be a hardback collection, as there is for the AtLA graphic novels.
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Date: 2017-08-19 10:49 pm (UTC)An entire culture just died, disappeared from living memory. Everything after was based on the sketchy memories of a hyperactive twelve year old, and best guesses based on what he could find and read over a hundred years after the fact.
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Date: 2017-08-21 07:51 pm (UTC).
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Date: 2017-08-20 01:33 am (UTC)IIRC, The criticism was: The movie explores where the grandfather's racism comes from, why would he hate black people so much in a way that acts like he is ultimately someone you should feel sorry for. the black family is simply shown as dysfunctional.
Is something you can see media doing a lot. white people get to have a novel lenght backstory explaining why they are racist. that there is a motivation behind their racism. But black people are poor for no good reason.
This is very concerning because it often shows white people a mistaken representation of what racism actually is. Because when they are shown accurate depictions of racism (not to say the other racism never happens, just that racism at large isn't propagated because of that) they fail to recognize it as such. "why would this character be racist? they don't have any reason to be. this is poorly written)
I think the same logic could be applied to homophobes and homophobia. people are claiming Ozai being an homophobe makes no sense because they are so used to homophobes in media there is a reason why they are like that.
Also, they refuse to pick even one history book about homophobia.
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Date: 2017-08-20 12:11 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-08-20 12:33 am (UTC)There also the Turf War of the title, which is about the Triads in Republic City becoing more active.
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Date: 2017-08-20 02:26 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-08-20 12:00 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-08-20 07:30 pm (UTC)Korra has been so set on humans and spirits living in peaceful coexistence. But between humans claiming to own the land where the spirit wilds and portal are and the spirits having the power to permanently alter a human's body like that, the conflict is so much more complicated and potentially interesting. I almost wish that this was the direction they had chosen to go with in the show instead of Kuvira or the Red Lotus.
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Date: 2017-08-21 03:29 am (UTC)But more importantly, it would have been fascinating because of one simple fact the show demonstrated time and time again. Spirits are jackasses that need to be punched in the teeth. Repeatedly. Their clashes with humanity could be utterly fascinating. And it would increase the odds of a certain owl getting plucked, so there's a plus.
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Date: 2017-08-21 08:03 pm (UTC)https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3052595/1/For-the-Sake-of-Knowledge
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Date: 2017-08-20 03:13 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-08-20 12:04 pm (UTC)My question was of genuine curiosity, not of sarcasm or anything like that.
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Date: 2017-08-21 05:05 am (UTC)What is wrong with figuring this question out by reading the story description wherever this book is sold?
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Date: 2017-08-21 02:15 pm (UTC)I asked 'cause I wanted to know whether this is a small ship-centric one-shot or a long story, and I asked it in the post dedicated to this particular title. And a member of the community answered me and described it a bit. Voluntarily and without seeing a problem.
And then came you.
Ah.
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Date: 2017-08-21 11:15 pm (UTC)"In order to get through it all, Korra and Asami vow to look out for each other– but first, they've got to get better at being a team and a couple!"
If you're only in this for the B-Plot, you're in it for the wrong reasons. The Avatar franchise excels when it comes to it's A-Plot, and it's A-Plot is always about it's characters.
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Date: 2017-08-22 12:11 am (UTC)Mod Note!
Date: 2017-08-22 12:26 am (UTC)I WILL note, that you don't get to judge if someone is reading something for "the wrong reasons" on scans_daily. If someone reads a comic for the A-plot that's fine, but they are also welcome to read it for the B-Plot, the C-Plot or plots D through ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha, if that is what gives them pleasure, and they will not be thought any the less of.
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Date: 2017-08-20 09:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-08-21 04:38 am (UTC)Also, aren't there other places one can go to figure out if this comic has a story? Like ANY website that describes the comic in question?
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Date: 2017-08-21 04:57 pm (UTC)Yes, we can find the answers somewhere else. But just pretend for a minute that part of the appeal of this website is communicating with people with similar interests about comics we want to learn more about, possibly even purchase. To answer that with "...hey, if you really need to learn what this comic is about you should go find another site" seems rather silly.
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Date: 2017-08-22 12:07 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-08-20 02:49 am (UTC)But seriously, it was an weird move. The Fire Nation was interesting because while they were still quite evil and imperialistic they were the most "progressive" out of all the nations seen in the show both technologically and socially by letting women serve in the military and such.
Sozin being homophobic just seems like a "Oh he's evil, he must hate gay people too."
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Date: 2017-08-20 05:07 am (UTC)Embracing technology and letting women serve in the military does not make the Fire Nation progressive.
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Date: 2017-08-20 06:31 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-08-21 04:18 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-08-21 04:08 pm (UTC)Then Hitler happened.
Sure, it was never implied before... but it DOES mirror several authoritarian regimes in the real world.
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Date: 2017-08-21 05:27 pm (UTC)Some of them were even KEPT in prison for the "crime" of homosexuality prosecuted by the Nazi's regardless of the fact they had been kept in some of the cruellest conditions in the Camps during the Holocaust.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_homosexuals_in_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Holocaust
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Date: 2017-08-20 05:57 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-08-20 10:04 am (UTC)Though I am puzzled at the rationale of this world in stigmatising same-sex relationships.
In this world where the existence of the supernatural is a certified fact, and people KNOW homosexuality isn't sinful and won't get you punished, by what logic could any government attempt to prohibit such relationships?
Narratively speaking, though, I think it's really sweet. And if it makes even one gay or lesbian reader feel better and safer, it's done it's job.
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Date: 2017-08-20 06:20 pm (UTC)Your premise is flawed. Logic doesn't play much part in intolerance. Personally, I believe it all just stems from the childlike rationale of "That's not usual. I don't like it." Any religious, biological, psychological or legal condemnation after that is little more than an excuse, a set of smoke and mirrors, to distract from the festering gut reaction against something considered weird.
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Date: 2017-08-21 01:30 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-08-21 02:24 am (UTC)And lack of religion has never been an impediment to homophobia. Case in point: the reeducation camps in the former Soviet Union.
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Date: 2017-08-21 08:59 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-08-20 04:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-08-21 09:17 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-08-21 11:43 pm (UTC)Her and Pema, maybe that was justified if Lin didn't want kids. But I have a hard time seeing it, given how Pema told Korra to jump inbetween Mako and Asami's barely started relationship.
But Sue? Sue commits armed robbery, scars her sister for life and then uses her family connections to avoid punishment, and it's Lin who shouldn't still be mad? Did Sue ever apologize even?
And Toph, who keeps the identity of Lin's father from her her entire life, and then suddenly drops it in the middle of a rescue mission. And Lin's the unreasonable one?
It's like since Lin is a career woman, that somehow requires her to be wrong with regards to family. And don't get me started on how they worf her...
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Date: 2017-08-20 09:38 pm (UTC)A lot of history and culture is heavily documented and shared in this universe, its not as though each nation is alien to one another. (though it would make sense if it was tbh)
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Date: 2017-08-21 07:18 am (UTC)Water Tribe just... don't talk about it, so unless you have reason to ask it's unlikely to ever be relevant.
Fire Nation... erased the concept from their totalitarian society.
Seems reasonable that someone raised by the Water Tribe, and someone else from Republic City wouldn't necessarily know much about their queer history.
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Date: 2017-08-25 09:02 pm (UTC)Sure they don't talk about it in the Water Tribe, but it's not like Korea didn't think she could not exist as a bisexual person, it wasn't brand new to her, since she was aware its odd that she didn't know where she stood with the rest of the world that she's traveled in.
But ultimately this in a nitpick of mine :P
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Date: 2017-08-20 11:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-08-21 07:18 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-08-21 02:21 am (UTC)My headcanon: Wu dissolves the monarchy and declares free elections, becomes the Earth Republic's first PM, legalizes same-sex unions, and marries Mako.
Aaaaaaallll abooooooard the SS Wuko!
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Date: 2017-08-22 03:29 pm (UTC)