About Babs/Dinah and Gail Simone

[galateus.insanejournal.com]

Funny question: On a TV Tropes example page most relevant to our interests, someone wrote that Gail Simone 'encourages' femmeslash. What interview was that?

Relatedly, a moment from Birds of Prey 21. You know the one.

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[bluefall.insanejournal.com]

I don't know about interviews, but back at the old S_D she tended to egg us on about the Babs/Dinah stuff in the comments from time to time, and implied on at least one occasion that a bit of subtext was entirely intentional.

[scottyquick.insanejournal.com]

See Bluefall's icon, where Dinah saves Babs solely through the power of HER LOVE FOR HER.

[stolisomancer.insanejournal.com]

I remember talking about a theoretical scene where Barbara runs in and interrupts Ollie and Dinah's wedding like the last scene in The Graduate, and Simone posted to wish such a thing were possible.

I believe it was part of that one large post concerning someone or another questioning whether she was actually Gail Simone or not.

[queenanthai.insanejournal.com]

WHY DID YOU LINK TO TV TROPES

I FORGOT TO TIE OFF A ROPE AND NOW I'M DROWNING

[sistermagpie.insanejournal.com]

No matter how many times I see this picture, it's still one of the sexiest things I've ever seen in comics.

And looking at it now I'm comparing it to the Tim/Dick posted not so long ago, by the Lazarus pit? And just looking at them together makes this even slashier.

[perletwo.insanejournal.com]

Said it before, sayin' it again: full-on, no-subtext boob and ass gropiage goin' on there. Totally.

[retro_nouveau.insanejournal.com]

Whoa, that train left subtext into text a long time ago, next stop superscript.

Ease up that grip, Dinah - the Oracleavage is tilted at a 15-degree angle! XD

[mysteryfan.insanejournal.com]

Seen it before, but yes. Still very, very hot. Who's the artist, again?

In Google I Trust

[galateus.insanejournal.com]

'Jackson Guice (pencils, inks) [...] Gloria Vasquez (colors); Digital Chameleon (color seperations)' (http://www.dcuguide.com/BoP/BoP_021.php)

[bluefall.insanejournal.com]

Butch Guice.

Which is why this is so fun. I don't love his run on Birds, but one thing you can absolutely say about him is he doesn't put women into weird or porny positions when it isn't appropriate. If this were still Land, you could wave it off, all "oh he just traced it from porn, it doesn't mean anything," but not with Guice.

[mullon.insanejournal.com]

I wonder how many people are responsible for some of those. I'm assuming all the ones at the bottom.

[thebigapricot.insanejournal.com]

It always cracks me up that the most iconic slash image of Babs and Dinah came on Dixon's run.

[darkknightjrk.insanejournal.com]

...Please don't tell me he's a phobe. It would make me really sad. :(

[bluefall.insanejournal.com]

Oh, don't worry, I'm sure some of his best friends are gay.

[bluejaybirdie.insanejournal.com]

Heh. Look at Dinah cop a feel there. And Babs is about to!

Reportedly, the "hetero to the BONE" line was originally something like "80% hetero", but got changed by the editors :(

[galateus.insanejournal.com]

Oh, BURN.

[sianmink.insanejournal.com]

THEY HAVE A TROPE FOR THAT

[bluefall.insanejournal.com]

Shit, I wish I still had the email, or we still had comments from the old site. IIRC Gail said it was "placeholder dialog," as in, that's what she put on the page, intending to later get clearance to change it (which she expected she'd be able to), but never got around to it.

It's not a real hard line to work with as is, though, you can easily go the "deep denial" route, since "I AM SO VERY HETERO THAT I AM HETERO RIGHT DOWN TO MY BONES" spins pretty well as "doth protest too much," and the whole running-off-to-Asia-when-Babs-gets-engaged and marry-Ollie-despite-not-having-a-single-real-reason-to shenanigans support the reading of "desperate to assert her heterosexuality."

I love this post, I get to give my favorite icon a workout.

[scottyquick.insanejournal.com]

Yeah, I remember that bit clearly. And then we were all "GAILLLLLLLLLLLLL!" and she was like "Of all the dialogue not to go through :(" .

What's funny is that I remember this from looking through two year old backposts.

[scottyquick.insanejournal.com]

No, no, it was his wife's brother.

[yaseen101.insanejournal.com]

YOU TOO...?

[thebigapricot.insanejournal.com]

Dixon? It was his aunt who was gay.

Re: In Google I Trust

[mysteryfan.insanejournal.com]

Thanks!

[mysteryfan.insanejournal.com]

Heh. Thank you!

[bluejaybirdie.insanejournal.com]

That was the day I went from really liking Gail's writing to loving Gail. Because seriously, how can you not love that she was going to write Dinah as canonically not completely hetero?