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Oswald Cobblepot is getting his own show this fall. Thoughts? I'm a little conflicted. I thought Colin did a great job in The Batman but he still comes off as more of a Sopranos character than the Penguin. Robin Lord Taylor on Gotham had the proper balance in my opinion (although to be fair that show was much more willing to embrace the camp of the comics whereas Matt Reeves wants to make everything 'grounded'). 

Date: 2024-03-23 05:30 pm (UTC)
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I found THE BATMAN really engrossing and compelling. For pure cinema, I think it might be the best-made Batman film. (Not throwing shade on Burton or Nolan, mind you! "Best-made" doesn't mean "all the others were badly made.") Those long, patient takes; the way the movie takes its time and sort of unfurls around you and draws you in; the selective use of focus to engage your brain and make you piece together the clues about what was happening, as if you, too, were a detective; it all made an impression on me.

I thought Farrell was the single funniest part of an otherwise dour movie. Yes, he's conventionally handsome, but I like his willingness to stretch and subvert that in the roles he takes, whether it's this or his turn as a total sweetheart who will do terrible things and feel really bad about them in the movie incarnation of Guy Ritchie's THE GENTLEMEN.

I agree that so far, this feels rather generic. And I'm a huuuuuuge fan of GOTHAM and Robin Lord Taylor's weird, scary, pathos-rich performance there. But I so enjoyed the rain-soaked, history-haunted Gotham that Reeves and his collaborators conjured in THE BATMAN, and I'm eager to spend some more time in that place.

Date: 2024-03-24 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] attemptederudite
Honestly, when it comes to which Batman franchise is the best made, I honestly think that it is really hard to say which is the best made. Burton, Nolan and Reeves all did something special, and it is impressive just how many times Batman has been rebooted and how often it managed to create one of the great franchises of its era.
Batman 66, Batman Returns, Batman Begins and the Dark Knight, the Batman... Even Dark Knight Rises has fun camp value even as it is far too overstuffed to work and lacks the meticulous character work of the other two. That's a pretty great hit rate.

Also, think you're a little harsh about the dourness of the Batman. Farrell's the funniest, but there's actually a lot of other fun details, I'd say. A little low key, but the movie has a real joy in how it refuses to let the world treat Batman as seriously as he'd like to be. Selina's teasing, messing up the jump off the GCPD... Lots of fun details like that. Batman and Gordon even have a fun dynamic together. And, of course, the great, hilarious reveal that the Riddler is... a Youtuber

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