The Ultimates #2

[alliterator]

by Deniz Camp and Juan Frigeri

"I read the original Ultimates and I thought the original Ultimates was a clear response to 9/11 and a satire of American hegemony at the time and so I wanted our Ultimates to be a response to our times. [...] Part of the book is, well, what does it mean to change the world? And we all want to change the world, but do we all want to change it in the same way? It felt very ripe story wise."
-- Deniz Camp


Captain America and the Ultimates attack the White House on July 4th, while Captain America flashes back to the history lesson Tony Stark gave him after he came out of the ice.









After this issue was came out, Marvel came out with a new variant cover that is a big old SPOILER:


Yes, that's right: Captain America was trying to literally save America.

Comments

[super_fly]

But what is America, you ask? America is going to punch you in your metal-plated dick.

[scorntx]

(... I don't think satire is the word I'd use to describe the original Ultimates.
Think maybe Mr. Camp overestimates Millar's abilities in that arena.)

The team's second enemy being an insane, thieving old white man might well be so on the nose as to cause concussion. Or at the very least a bad nose bleed.
(Never mind the bit where it's a concept originally made by Millar going up against a Grant Morrison character.)


But, seriously... it's not often to find an issue of something I want to read repeatedly. Usually it's just once and that's that for the day.
So whatever Camp's doing, it's working.


Also, we got a Jan who can go giant. Giant woooman!

[blues32]

Who is that? Stane? Someone unfamiliar?

[scorntx]

Midas, the baddie from the Morrison Marvel Boy series from way back when.

[blues32]

Is that why the armor is gold?

[scorntx]

It's one of the reasons, yes.
(Not 100% if it was gold to begin with or he did that himself.)

[alliterator]

He did it himself. With actual gold (which comes back to bite him, since gold is a *soft* metal).

[nyadnar17]

I wish once, just once someone in these books would respond to these Reddit Capitalism/Vulture Capitalist takes with the very obvious response that fraud and force are the literal kryptonite of Capitalism.

Money starts to lose its value as a conveyer of information, non-command economies starts to lose their ability to efficiently allocate resources, and law enforcement starts to lose the consent to be govern that allows it to function at a fraction of the size of the population.

Vulture Capitalist and Corporatist are literal parasites on the system sucking out value while providing nothing and I am sick of them being allowed to present themselves as "True Capitalism" with zero pushback.

[cainofdreaming]

But any government control of the system is communism! Money should always run free (to me).

[akodo_rokku]

I mean they ARE true Capitalism. It's always been a monstrous system. And realistically? They're the only ones left.

[zachbeacon]

Is this Steve or someone else?

In any case, I like this Ultimate Captain America a lot better than the last one.

[zachbeacon]

It really is amazing that the people who have been calling anything that might help people "socialist" for generations don't understand why an increasing number of people identify as such.

[shakalooloo]

"Also, we got a Jan who can go giant. Giant woooman!"

Everything Hank can do, she can do better...

[shakalooloo]

I still hate Iron Lad's speech bubbles (so hard to read, and the 'cursor' cluttering his thought captions in issue 1 was very distracting) but I love everything else in this series. Such a refreshing change to have the Ultimates actually kicking in the door of the establishment rather than just being government stooges.

[shakalooloo]

Still Steve. But this is a universe that diverged from the 616, so he's closer to 'main' continuity than the previous Ultimate version.