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Cass is having coffee, when a random diner empolyee decides to hit on her.

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Embarassing romantic upset number one: finding that the girl you like is severely dyslexic and unable to read the note you sent her.

Wait, does the fact that she got a cheque mean she can no maths? Hm, I think I read elsewhere Cass just hands over a bunch of tens and twenties at random and they work out the change for her.

Anyway, considering Cass' boyfriends tend to have the lasting power of an unrefridgerated carton of milk, she happens to be single at the time so she takes him up on it.


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Mickey Rourke seems to have taken time out of promoting Iron Man 2 to play Cass' dad here. Weird that this fear of intimacy hasn't appeared anywhere other than this mini series, huh?

Anyway, Javier decides to send her some flowers to make up for whatever slightly he assumed Cass felt he'd done.
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Yeah, people make a lot of weird noises in this storyline. Batman spends two, three issues going Grrmph for example.

Wait, doesn't this invalidate the part of her origin where seeing someone killed in front of her make her run from her father and become the littlest hobo?

Anyway, Javier vanishes from the story as actual plot occurs, but we're left with these two panels as City of Light concludes.
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Wow, look how enthusiastic she is. Why does Bruce hanging out in the background make it look like he made her go out with Javier again?

Anyway, Javier evaporated after this storyline, only to be semi-replaced with Tim. Who Cass was apathetic about unless off her face on Evil Juice. And then there was Sal, from Beechen's mini series, who also vanished after THAT mini was over.

Unless Cass is dossing at his house at the moment or something.

char: batgirl/cassandra cain

Date: 2010-01-27 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daningram.insanejournal.com
Actually, read the captions. Cass didn't snipe the guy, Cain did. I can see how it wouldn't have the same power/impact as Cass' first crime, though it is a needless addition all things considered.

Date: 2010-01-27 02:59 pm (UTC)
mad: I AM THE LIZARD QUEEN! (Default)
From: [personal profile] mad
No, I realize she didn't kill him in these panels, but her very first kill, she had no idea what was going to happen. That was the very first time she'd seen someone killed, which is part of why she was so shocked and traumatized and chose to ran away. She'd had no idea of the pain that actually going through with those moves would cause.

Date: 2010-01-27 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daningram.insanejournal.com
Yeah, but what made her first kill so traumatizing was that she ripped the guy's throat out, and she watched as he slowly bled out. She saw the fear, terror etc. as the guy realized his ticket was punched by the eight year old girl standing on his desk.

With the sniper bullet and a headshot, it's like flipping a switch. Nothing traumatizing about it because by the time the person realizes that they've been shot, they're dead.

Date: 2010-01-27 06:31 pm (UTC)
bluefall: blue-tinted autumn leaves (Default)
From: [personal profile] bluefall
She seems pretty traumatized here.

Date: 2010-01-27 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daningram.insanejournal.com
Yeah, years later when she fully realizes the implications of what she and her father did that night.

Date: 2010-01-27 07:07 pm (UTC)
bluefall: blue-tinted autumn leaves (Default)
From: [personal profile] bluefall
And in the flashbacks, where she's wide-eyed and freaked out over holding the gun.

Cass had no idea what her training was about until she killed that dude. It was the first time she'd ever seen death. Up close, far away, by her own hand or anyone else's, ever. It was a major plot point. And yet here we have her shooting somebody and Cain talking up a storm in her ear. Inaccurate retconny crap, that simple.

Umm, what?

Date: 2010-01-27 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daningram.insanejournal.com
She doesn't seem too freaked out in the flash backs. Sure, cut to the present it's disturbing, but in the flashbacks above there's no indication Cass is the least bit concerned about having been a part of a murder.

I don't recall them stating that her first murder was Cass' first encounter with death, but really, it wouldn't matter. What made her first killing so traumatic was what she 'read' as the person died.

Here, it's a quick shot and done. No reading possible

It's a lousy scene sure, but doesn't go against Cass' origin in any way that can't be handwaved away.

Beechen, however...

Re: Umm, what?

Date: 2010-01-27 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] 404glitch
She doesn't have to be freaked out in the flashbacks though, because at that point, she didn't know what was really going on. Looking back on it is what makes her realize what her father was really doing.

Though you'd think she'd pick up on the dude's body language too.

Date: 2010-01-27 07:08 pm (UTC)
bluefall: Wonder Girl facepalming (facepalm Cassie)
From: [personal profile] bluefall
*party to shooting a guy. Dammit, I can type, really.

Date: 2010-01-27 03:15 pm (UTC)
deepspaceartist: Iron Man mark 43 (Default)
From: [personal profile] deepspaceartist
IIRC, Cass ran away from of her first kill because after she killed him by ripping out his throat or something like that, she watched him die. I imaging the body language for 'oh god that little girl ripped out my throat I am dying in great pain' would be different from a sniper bullet to the head. To use the metaphor of body language of actual language, this kill is someone ceasing to talk, while her first kill is a long, drawn out scream.

Date: 2010-01-27 04:31 pm (UTC)
majingojira: (Dresden Rides Sue)
From: [personal profile] majingojira
And then scientist found a genetic/evolutionary link regarding Morality/Ethics/Empathy.

Aw yeah, Sciecne!

Edit: Wrong source.

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