Goddamnit the joker behind yet another rift in the Batclan and causing one member nearly irreparable damage...there's no really reason why Bruce (or someone) shouldn't have just killed him.
I don't buy this... not for a second. I offically divorce Batman Beyond form the DCUA and DC canon. They keep making a Bruce a bigger dick then he is. First having sex with Barbra and then this.
Bruce not coming to see Dick doesn't work for me. Actually this whole scenario doesn't work for me, but that's beside the point.
What happened to Tim is a whole different situation, but even if he didn't do it out of a sense of personal responsibility (Which Batman is a walking testament to), Alfred would bloody well MAKE him visit.
I don't get it. It's supposed to be the idea that Joker aimed at Batman but him Dick because he was right behind him right? So...wouldn't it be Dick's fault for being behind Bruce or not paying attention to the field during the fight? I mean the idea here is Dick knowing this watched Bruce jump down in front of him and waited to get shot....and aren't their costumes generally bullet proof or at least resistant enough so that they'd be fine for the most part and not have what happened to Dick up there?
God this re-launch isn't going as well as I hoped.
Bruce makes a mistake? Having a stroke I can see, not being able to control every variable in every encounter is ok -- but forgetting small-unit tactics that he trained everyone else to routinely do?
Bruce decides to never see Dick ever again?
Ok, time to see if there's a Starro hiding on Bruce.
Okay so I guess the big rule is the fella with the cape doesn't land first becaus ehe uses the cape to divert enemy fire, with nightwing landing BEHIND him however when misdirecting he involuntarily hit dick.
However let me point this out, the canon here makes NO SENSE. Joker should be dead because there is no Robin, why have nightwing your EX SIDEKICK when you have your current one?
As for the whole bruce is a dick....he kinda is here but he's easy to write poorly. No excuse though
This is everything I already hated about Batman Beyond canon, ramped up to eleven. Million. If it was a true AU, an entirely separate continuity, or an elseworld, maybe. But as the future of the DCAU? Bullshit.
What I understand from Beyond-verse is NOT that Batman was a doucheface but that everything bad that happened to his sidekicks made him more distant. He didn't WANT Terry to become Batman, but circumstances led him to allow Terry to work the suit and then he realized how much Gotham still needs help.
The others, like Tim, like Dick, like Barb realize that Bruce isn't a total jerk but they tell Terry that to steel him for any stupidity Bruce does in terms of relationships.
If this is what Bruce REALLY did then I am not counting this as DCAU canon.
Sure Bruce was a jerk in the later post BTAS seasons 1-3 DCAU, but this...this goes beyond sleeping with Babs. At least that could be reasonably explained as two consenting adults.
Tim, at least he got Tim Drake the necessary help he needed.
This though...damn. What ever happened to Amanda Waller's speech about how Bruce was so caring and stuff in Justice League's Epilogue?
...Maybe it's not Dick. Maybe it's a trap , all those are lies and that is actually some evil clone or android or some kind of archenemy....It' not easy to stay optimitic these days...
Yeah, This takes place on another Earth right? A really horrible, Bruce Wayne's an ass universe that nobody likes. I refuse to believe this is New-Earth.
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Date: 2010-09-15 10:04 pm (UTC)What happened to Tim is a whole different situation, but even if he didn't do it out of a sense of personal responsibility (Which Batman is a walking testament to), Alfred would bloody well MAKE him visit.
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Date: 2010-09-15 10:20 pm (UTC)Where's my broomstick!
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Date: 2010-09-16 12:49 am (UTC)Beechen Brand Fuckery: You'll say "WHAT THE FUCK" every time!
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Date: 2010-09-16 01:05 am (UTC)Sleeping with Babs - as a betting gal, I'd give the morning line at 3-5
Okay, he'd strip the costume because 1) who wouldn't? and 2) that whole secret identity thing - nearly 100% chance
But Bruce Wayne never talking to Dick Grayson again? Quite a longshot... 100-1 maybe...
No matter, Batman Beyond is great to read more and fun to watch, actually was watching the series on Amazon Unbox as I logged on...
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Date: 2010-09-16 01:13 am (UTC)God this re-launch isn't going as well as I hoped.
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Date: 2010-09-16 01:33 am (UTC)Bruce decides to never see Dick ever again?
Ok, time to see if there's a Starro hiding on Bruce.
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Date: 2010-09-16 02:51 am (UTC)However let me point this out, the canon here makes NO SENSE. Joker should be dead because there is no Robin, why have nightwing your EX SIDEKICK when you have your current one?
As for the whole bruce is a dick....he kinda is here but he's easy to write poorly. No excuse though
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Date: 2010-09-16 02:57 am (UTC)I'm not taking this as DCAU Batman Beyond canon. Because this? Is just bullshit.
Comics writers just have to make everything a billion times more fucked up than the 'toons. Beechen just lost my readership.
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Date: 2010-09-16 06:10 am (UTC)The others, like Tim, like Dick, like Barb realize that Bruce isn't a total jerk but they tell Terry that to steel him for any stupidity Bruce does in terms of relationships.
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Date: 2010-09-16 06:13 am (UTC)Sure Bruce was a jerk in the later post BTAS seasons 1-3 DCAU, but this...this goes beyond sleeping with Babs. At least that could be reasonably explained as two consenting adults.
Tim, at least he got Tim Drake the necessary help he needed.
This though...damn. What ever happened to Amanda Waller's speech about how Bruce was so caring and stuff in Justice League's Epilogue?
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