Batman & Robin 23

[benicio127]

This issue had some great pacing, great black humour and great characterization. Oh and some great fanservice :)




I love this first panel. Jason looks like he's being grounded.




Jason has petitioned to go to regular prison. Bruce thinks Jason will be safer at Arkham because there are more enemies out to get Jason in prison. And it's where Bruce can keep an eye on him.
Jason is successful and ends up being transferred. However, his plan is to take down all the worst criminals from the inside.

Oh my, my, my what is this. What is this, indeed.

The most teeniest tiniest towel ever xD
So fanservice-y xD (Though March draws Jason built like a house, wtf)




And then, out in the yard.




Yes, he is reading Pride and Prejudice.







That is one seductive pose xD

Comments

[thanekos]

somebody's sublimated their feelings in the gym!

[janegray]

Now I'm imagining Jason furiously pedaling on a stationary bicycle, crying "WHY WON'T YOU LOVE ME, DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!?!"

[ghosty732]

Say what you want about March, but he's definitely up for equal opportunity fan service.

[nezchan]

I like how Jason got the smallest towel.

Like it a lot!

[kenn_el]

Someone remembers that Jason was the last Robin to rock the shorts!

[proteus_lives]

Nice move, he didn't technically kill that guy.

Plus Bats is all, "and no video games for two weeks! I mean it this time!"

[benicio127]

I know, the posing on that panel is perfectly in-character!

[lascoden]

How old is Jason supposed to be?

[milleniumrex]

Probably 19-20. I think he's the same age as Cass. Which...yeah, no, doesn't look like that at all.

[mullon]

The prison guards gave him a special jumpsuit to match his hair?

[espanolbot]

Probably to make him stand out from the rest of the populous and let the other guards know that he's a supervillainy person, as opposed to a mugger or crack dealer.

[star_of_airdrie]

In the middle panel, when he is paging thru P&P and there is literally a knife fight beginning over him, is Jason supposed to evoke images of an auburn-haired version of Jesus, or is it me?

[harpers_child]

he looks like remy lebeau to me.

[harpers_child]

jay, are trying to become roy? i promise dick loves you just as you are. you don't have to try to be someone else. (helloooo fanservice. nice to see some of you directed my way.)

[darkblade]

Well Roy's not really being Roy right now, so someone might as well.

[tsunamiwombat]

A bit too Chris Redfield beefy, IMO, but nice. Actualy he looks better in that last panel, more agile then mack truck.

I don't see Batman standing by, letting Jason kill people. Also does this mean that Jason isn't Wingman?

[pepperspray101]

This looks like it could've taken place before Batman Inc...

[pyrotwilight]

I'M NOT STUCK IN HERE WITH YOU. YOU'RE STUCK IN HERE WITH ME.

Said the crazed redhead who likes goofy head coverings.

[pepperspray101]

LMAO...I thought of that immediately when I saw these pages. Channeling Rorschach are we, Jason? Too awesome. :D

[auggie18]

...dear god, Jason is hot. I am officially not caring about the red hair thing now. (I'm big fan of red-heads anyway though, so...) I mean, that is one attractive man.


Also, I like this Jason, personality-wise. He's a snarky ass, yeah, but he's actually fun.

[glockblob.livejournal.com]

I'm stymied. As a redhead I kind of hate the trend to give somebody red hair as soon as they're marked as a traitor or whatever, but... sweet goodness he is looking good. I don't think the thinking part of my brain is winning this fight.

[maxisanacorn]

Where's his skunk stripe? Hasn't that always been a distinct post-retcon punch resurrection "mark"?

Yeah he doesn't look twenty..I mean I know some people around twenty that are rather built but he just looks thirty. Looks like that guy from Lost.

I'd like to see Marcus To draw this newer Jason, he's one of the current artists that I feel really has a feel at what different ages look like. He manages to make Tim in his Red Robin costume still look young while many other artists make him look like Dr. Mid-Nite and middle aged. Rafael Albequerque who did the Robin/Spoiler special and lots of Blue Beetle also does consistently age appropriate looks/builds for characters. He remember liking the way he drew both Spoiler in costume as well as Tim's all red Superboy Robin costume.

People forget Jason is young since he's been around since the eighties, maybe it's because they assume he technically came back shortly after his death and has been around in hiding since then until Hush and then Red Hood,

He died at 13, came back as 13, and Tim started being Robin at 13? Or was he younger...I'm forgetting. Eleven? Really young for all of them. I forget Damian is only ten.

The Bat timeline really sucks, is Tim officially even eighteen yet? I know Steph is supposed to be a bit older than him right, so her entering college is perfectly fine, and Cass is supposed to be a year or two older than her which makes Cass more of a peer to Jason in terms of age.

So age in youngest to oldest

Damian - Tim - Steph - Cass - Jason - Dick - Babs - Bruce

Right?

[tsunamiwombat]

With the exception of Damian, they're all "legal" at this point- and thats all that really matters for our fanfiction, isn't it?

[pepperspray101]

I hate to say it, but yes, hottest redheaded guy I've ever seen. Still not used to it, but his personality comes across so strongly that I can sorta overlook it...almost.
I gotta wonder tho...why Pride & Prejudice? LOL, I'm trying to figure Jason's (or Winick's) thought process here. lol...

Tho I just caught it, only the beginning half the book is pencilled by Guillem March, the other half is done by Andre Basseni(sp?) I thought it looked a bit different after the shower scene....Both make very hot red head jasons tho. :)

[espanolbot]

"why Pride & Prejudice"

Well he is in jail now, he has plenty of time to catch up with his reading.

So what did we learn today class?

[big_daddy_d]

*Student anxously raises hand*

Yes, you there.

Student: "Do not interrupt Jason Todd when he's reading!"

You are correct Timmy. Here's a gold star!

[whitesycamore]

Serves them right for trying to shiv a man while he's reading - that's just low.

Lol at Jason turning the tiny flimsy pages with his huge meaty hands.

Also what is with that beaver-man in the shower scene?

[pepperspray101]

eeugh, I kept getting rapey vibes in the first panel of the shower scene. I was half expecting it, when he called out to him as Red. *shudders* I'm like, oh crap, what's gonna follow? But Jason kept his snarky cool and thankfully it didn't even go there. (Not that Jason would've allowed it to get anywhere, but even the threat of it would've been unpleasant to read).

Thankfully all we got was gratuitous fan service!

[tauruschick12]

I'm sorry, but I cannot think he's hot. And I'm a person who thinks Guy is the best looking Green Lantern, so trust me when I say that it's not that I don't like red-headed muscular combos, but more on the fact that this guy LOOKS NOTHING LIKE JASON.

Seriously, who is this, Crazy Steve? This guy is ripped, 90's anti-hero sized, and he looks like a cross between Roy and Oliver. He is either Crazy Steve or Guy's dead brother, but this is so not Jason.

[starwolf_oakley]

Crazy Steve, meaning the Batman from "All Star Batman and Robin, the Boy Wonder?

[marco]

He is looking ridiculously sexy in all these scans... But I'm kinda tempted to shop some black on the hair and see if it works as well.
I still want the black hair, but they really made the look work for him here.

[daggerpen]

If you do that, I want those scans.

Just saying.

[misterbug]

"If all the world hated you and believed you wicked, while your own conscience approved of you and absolved you from guilt, you would not be without friends..."

wrong 19th century book written by a woman...lol

[pepperspray101]

But still very appropriate/ironic here. (woo! Someone quoted Jane Eyre, I'm so happy! :D)

[joasakura]

unf.

just.. scruffy redheads... I just.. uhm...

I need to go pick this issue up this weekend. >.>;

[blackruzsa]

I still don't identify Jason as this redhead with the stubble,
BUT
god, that's hot.

[mad]

While I definitely enjoyed that last panel there, I...really didn't know what to make of this issue.

Annoyed that he's back to red hair (not that it looks bad on him here, I just like consistency and I keep thinking he's Roy), amused by his reading Pride & Prejudice, and I think the reunion with Bruce was a little...deflated?

IDK, all of the characterization felt a little weird to me, like it was rushed.

[benicio127]

I think the reunion with Bruce was a little...deflated?

IDK, all of the characterization felt a little weird to me, like it was rushed.

Yeah, this is definitely one of my criticisms with it, that there wasn't enough Bruce chat and it could have been longer. But that's what happens when you knock out a bunch of pages to hold the line at $2.99. I've been feeling the same way about the last three issues of Batman Inc., that everything has been squeezed in to a smaller space and feels more rushed.

[retro_nouveau]

Ok, so maybe I don't dislike Guillem March after all... I'm the last one to complain, but I agree that Jason is a little too big here.

I don't know how the Beaver died (was there a joke about Wally and Eddie Haskell in there somewhere?). But I wish Jason was like that in the prison yard thing all the time: Ok, so people die when Jason's around, but he's never directly responsible ... or is he? :D

[benicio127]

I don't know how the Beaver died (was there a joke about Wally and Eddie Haskell in there somewhere?). But I wish Jason was like that in the prison yard thing all the time: Ok, so people die when Jason's around, but he's never directly responsible ... or is he? :D

There was no The Beav joke! He was "thought" to have committed suicide in his cell, but we as the reader knew Jason was responsible. He later admits in in the end. And yeah. that's basically it. I mean the warden seemed pretty incompetent, but there were numerous suspicious deaths --- and then of course, the end when Dick finally calls the warden.

[hoey]

What, no scan of Jason asking about Talia or as he put it, "Damian's mom"?

:P

[kurenai-tenka.livejournal.com]

Ahah, omg I know... only three pages to get that 'your mum' joke in there?

[kurenai-tenka.livejournal.com]

Much as I loved it, it felt so damn short. =/ But what can you do.

I kinda thought Bruce was an epic tool in this though... the two panels on top of each other where Jason asks how he is and his face just kinda falls when he ignores him. :( DAMNIT BRUCE.

Oh, and those were strange looking people breaking him out of jail. I don't suppose we're supposed to know them from anywhere?

[whitesycamore]

I think Bruce just doesn't know how to relate to Jason in this situation, but it is really sad how he's unwilling/unable to show even a tiny bit of emotion towards him.

I think he's just trying to keep distance between them because any kind of intimacy might make things even more diffcult for him to deal with emotionally. Weirdly, I even got the impression that Jason kind of understood that, and could accept it even if he didn't like it. I'm hesitant to say Jason's "grown" as a person, but he definitely seems calmer, happier and more mature than he ever has been since his return.

He's still a very bad guy though. :D

[starwolf_oakley]

Arkham is somehow safer than Blackgate? (If Jason is indeed at Blackgate.)

But I like that Jason finds being at Arkham insulting, even though it wasn't (originally) Bruce's idea.

[ebailey140]

Arkham is somehow safer than Blackgate? (If Jason is indeed at Blackgate.)

For the other inmates, yes, it's much safer to have Jason in Arkham.