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Courtesy of New York Daily News, here's an exclusive scene from the new Superman #1 in which Clack meets Lois' new boyfriend:




Annnnnd...I think I'll let the fail speak for itself here.  Other than to say maybe those "Superman hooks up with Wonder Woman" rumors may essentially be rooted in a "brooding and loner" Clark (ugh!) getting back at the, once again, all-too clueless Lois for "rejecting" him when she decided to shack up with an all-too obvious douchebag...who, of course, she'll end up dumping in less than a year. Way to alienate your readers and Superman fans alike here, DC. 


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Date: 2011-07-21 06:07 pm (UTC)
thanekos: Seiga Kaku from Touhou 13, shadowed. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
J.C., eh? Well, he can't be Satanus now.

Date: 2011-07-21 06:08 pm (UTC)
hawkmoondirge: (Default)
From: [personal profile] hawkmoondirge
Wanted to post this, but just read it and I have to say this is WORSE than BND. i know, it's hard to believe, but this is just... awful.

I like how Lois is kinda portrayed as kindof a bitch here too, really classy DC. Honestly, this reboot makes me want to cry blood

Date: 2011-07-21 06:13 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Sooooo.... who thought 'Superman the brooding loner' was what they needed?

Date: 2011-07-21 06:17 pm (UTC)
tsunamiwombat: (BardaFalconPawnch)
From: [personal profile] tsunamiwombat
So basically Clark has a terrible job surrounded by terrible people?

OK.

Date: 2011-07-21 06:24 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
On the plus side, we don't have a Lois and Clark who have dated and it didn't work out, or nearly got married, but didn't.

They've never dated at all, and so the field is clear for the future.

I'm not sure I'm interested, but strictly speaking for myself, I'm not outraged by this.

Date: 2011-07-21 06:27 pm (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Batman & Robin)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
So can someone explain this DC reboot? Is it basically a straight up reimagining or is it picking up from one specific point in continuity? Does this affect the entire universe or are some titles still following the original continuity?

Date: 2011-07-21 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredneil.livejournal.com
After watching bad sitcoms for several decades, I can say with confidence that this is a set-up for Clark and Lois to eventually get together. Giveaway 1: She's chatting with him at the door when she has someone waiting for her in bed and she make no attempt to end the conversation with Clark. Giveaway 2: "Maybe you should find someone to celebrate with as well. You deserve it." Giveaway 3: "Maybe he's pining for you." "Oh, shut up and get back in bed." These aren't the most subtle of hints.

Date: 2011-07-21 06:33 pm (UTC)
sigmund_droid: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sigmund_droid
For a second there reading the first scan I thought that the black guy might be Lois' new beau, to which I thought "hey that might be kind of interesting, forced but hey"

Theeennnn I realized it was a blond Aryan asshole that was shirtless and had the most "I WILL EVENTUALLY BE EVIL" grin I've ever seen.

Date: 2011-07-21 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] 18lemons
They had this to say on The Source too.

[I]“Superman is one of the World’s Greatest Super Heroes, but he can’t have it all,” DC Entertainment Co-Publisher Jim Lee told THE NEW YORK DAILY NEWS. “Many of us know what it’s like to be the odd man out and we think readers will have a soft spot for Clark when they see his reaction to Lois’ new boyfriend.”

“In resetting Superman’s story and origin, it gave us a chance to revisit the challenges of that relationship in a contemporary setting,” said DC Entertainment Co-Publisher Dan DiDio.[/I]

That's fine, I can't argue with that. They both seem pretty accurate in fact.

The thing that stood out the most to me was Cat Grant (That was Cat Grant, right?) saying that Clark is full of it. Full of it are words that would never cross my mind when describing Clark Kent to anybody. Is Clark getting a personality transplant or is everybody at the Daily Planet just generally unpleasant now?

Date: 2011-07-21 06:50 pm (UTC)
jaybee3: Nguyen Lil Cass (Default)
From: [personal profile] jaybee3
would not also be surprised if in the last issue of Grounded or whatever the Superman story is prior to the reboot we have a tender final L&C married scene - and then the next month we get this RIGHT AWAY. Stay classy, DC....

The worst things are:
1) The uncreative-ness of it all - Marvel did the same exact scenario with MJ/Spidey per MJ's first post-OMD appearance (the first time we see her is purring her "Tiger" pet name for Peter to some other dude while waiting for him on her couch) and DC did it with Jade/Kyle (IIRC he walks into their apartment after months in space to find some other dude there). Both of these things were done for the benefit of the MALE character so they could move on to someone new without fans of those pairings being mad (since it was all the female characters fault). Slut shaming is horrible and hypocritical but in any fandom it is very real (look at the Huntress in comics or Ginny Weasley among certain elements of HP fans just because she merely went out with other guys). Lois has been immune from that (one of the few female characters that is the case of) but that's gone. I dread to watch what language certain forums will use for DCnU Lois.

2)The way DC is pushing this particular plot point - releasing these particular pages to the world media ahead of the reboot, making it clear that Clark (a grown man with God-like powers who can have any women he wants) is pining for her while she can't wait to get to bed with blonde new guy who even new readers won't care about (lets face it any new readers DC gets will be expecting L&C at least in some way, not some bland shirtless blond guy). This is designed to make us feel sorry for poor lonely unloved Clark by throwing Lois under the bus because she doesn't see his feelings or whatever. Contrast with the John Byrne reboot where Clark dated Cat Grant and others with no problems and was NOT pining for Lois. They eventually started to look each others way at the same time and it went on from there. But Clark never pined for her and she was ALWAYS sensitive to his feelings (even when she felt betrayed like when he quit the Planet to go over to Newstime to begin with).

3) They are supposed to have been working together for years (especially since Dan Didio has explicitly said major storylines where Lois played a role like Identity Crisis, Infinite Crisis, Final Crisis, Death/Return of Superman, Batman:Hush are still in continuity) and yet Lois doesn't see him more than a co-worker still (who she is trying to hook up with other people)? I'm not buying. This is a return to the age of Silver Age Stupid Lois who never saw Clark and only saw Superman. In both of the Superman origins in the last decade (both of which were well received, sold well, written by A-list writers and supposed to be definitive) Lois perceived there was something more to Clark almost from the moment they met and she was interested in HIM (as well as Superman). Now that's gone too.

And I still haven't figured who the target audience for this is. Fratboys? Anti-social loners? The comic book nerd from the Simpsons? I mean, just one episode of Smallville (no matter how low-rated) had an audience that dwarfs that of the highest selling comic on the market. Didio/Johns/Lee could only dream of getting some of those people to read the comic with the TV show (highly dependent on L&C in the last seasons) gone but no...I don't get it.

Date: 2011-07-21 06:52 pm (UTC)
ap0cryphal: Gap Toothed Smile (Default)
From: [personal profile] ap0cryphal
honestly, i wouldn't mind reading a "just friends" version of Lois and Clark.

but not when it's written as this lazy, amateurish sitcom bullcrap. it's like whoever wrote this went through a goddamn checklist. UNDERAPPRECIATED NICE GUY (TM) + THE GIRL + DOUCHY SEX GOD BOYFRIEND = DRAMA!

seriously, this engenders sympathy to clark how?

FFS i've read archie comics with more subtlety and nuance than this dogshit.

Date: 2011-07-21 06:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] flidgetjerome
This scene made me very uncomfortable and took me a while to figure out why - on his way to ring on the bell, the scene is silent and Clark interrupts Lois and her boyfriend in all innocence. On the way to the lift, though, he's listening in, even though he knows they're about to get intimate.

That's pretty freaking skeevy.

Date: 2011-07-21 07:00 pm (UTC)
sigmund_droid: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sigmund_droid
Hate to say it, but I wish it was Jimmy.

Date: 2011-07-21 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
I can't believe they're doing this.

I mean, I *sorta* understand Marvel doing it. They knew there'd be a backlash but I can at least kinda, sorta imagine they didn't realize how big it was going to be.

Now DC does the same thing, fully knowing how badly Marvel's version went down. That's just bizzarre.

Date: 2011-07-21 07:07 pm (UTC)
terabient: Osaka from Azumanga Daioh, crying (Azumanga Daioh - Osaka Cry)
From: [personal profile] terabient
This just feels so awkward. I mean, it's not the worst thing ever but I feel so uncomfortable reading it. Like, I'm fine with Clark and Lois just being co-workers or pals but somehow adding other romantic interests is upsetting.

I miss the marriage already :c

Date: 2011-07-21 07:09 pm (UTC)
leikomgwtfbbq: (hmph!)
From: [personal profile] leikomgwtfbbq


I can't even find words to describe how stupid this is. Not just this; the entire trainwreck.

Date: 2011-07-21 07:16 pm (UTC)
sherkahn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sherkahn
today the role of Jonathan Carroll will be played by James Marsters.

Date: 2011-07-21 07:17 pm (UTC)
misterbug: (Default)
From: [personal profile] misterbug
I hate to say this, but the artist and colourist's job on that makeup, combined with the shirtlessness, tight outfits, sexual tension etc., makes Lois resemble a sex worker. Poor form.

This entire series might as well be subtitled "Not As Good As Morrison & Quietly"
bluefall: (skeptical Cheetah)
From: [personal profile] bluefall
Other than to say maybe those "Superman hooks up with Wonder Woman" rumors may essentially be rooted in a "brooding and loner" Clark (ugh!) getting back at the, once again, all-too clueless Lois for "rejecting" him when she decided to shack up with an all-too obvious douchebag...

Well, that certainly would demonstrate the apparently requisite disregard for Diana's character when the World's most overexposed Finest are involved.

But really my main takeaway from this is Lois is either a meta with some kind of minor clothes-related ability, or much more interestingly, kind of kinky. There aren't many vanilla things you can do that involve the man being half-naked in bed (she does say get back) but leave the woman fully dressed save for her shoes.

Also Perry's grin in that second panel is terrifying.

Date: 2011-07-21 07:26 pm (UTC)
detective_deathman08: (Default)
From: [personal profile] detective_deathman08
God and the part where he hears them with his super hearing rubs it in. Jesus the only thing that would make this worse is if superman saw her with Peter Parker.

Date: 2011-07-21 07:38 pm (UTC)
aaron_bourque: It's raining. On my face. (It's raining. On my face.)
From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
Goddammit.

I stopped reading Spider-Man because of Brand New Fail, now DC wants me to bail on their most iconic character???

Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque; there's still Batman and Blue Beetle, right? They're not crap, are they? ARE THEY? ::sob::

Date: 2011-07-21 07:39 pm (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
Well this looks like some lazy, trite dogshit.

Date: 2011-07-21 07:39 pm (UTC)
detective_deathman08: (Default)
From: [personal profile] detective_deathman08
I cant wait for lex luthor to burst into this series.
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