Round up of news from comic con
Jul. 24th, 2011 05:55 pmHello, chaps. Some news from comic con I wager you might find interesting.
News of a new "Hulk" series has already been public for sometime, but Loeb confirmed the series was now in development at ABC and that it would be a "brand-new" take on the character centering on Bruce Banner's early days hiding his monstrous secret. Who will join the increasingly long line of actors to play Banner was not a part of the discussion.
Exciting new for "Avengers" fans was word that "AKA Jessica Jones," also for ABC, is finally gaining traction. The series will focus on Jones, a former hero who decides to reboot her life as a private investigator. Loeb sparked buzz by promising that Jones' comic book lover, Luke Cage, and best friend, Carol Danvers (aka Ms. Marvel) would be regulars on the show.
"Cloak and Dagger" is in the works for another Disney property, ABC Family. This reinvention will find the duo living in post-Katrina New Orleans. In the comics, Cloak and Dagger were two former drug addicts who were the victims of a sythetic narcotic that gave them superpowers. They have been depicted as having a somewhat co-dependent relationship and not necessarily the most stable couple around. Whether "Cloak and Dagger" can be this dark on ABC Family remains to be seen.
Loeb's fourth and final project in serious development is "Mockingbird." Another longstanding "Avengers" member, this series appears as it will make the biggest jump from its literary origins. Loeb described it as 'Alias' meeets 'Felicity.' The current take finds Bobbi Morse a science major in college who is recruited to become a master spy by a secret intelligence agency (making this S.H.I.E.L.D. would be smart). In the comics, Mockingbird is an on again, off again love interest for Hawkeye and a longstanding member of The Avengers.
On the animated side, it was announced a cartoon version of Joss Whedon's "Astonishing X-Men" and "Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H." were in the works. No word on what network the two series will appear.
the link is here
Grant Morrison being interviewed by Vulture:
You split the book into four sections: the Golden Age, Silver Age, the Dark Age, and the Renaissance. Why call the third section, the eighties to early nineties, the Dark Ages?
That’s kind of the name that's been used by comic historians, I went along with it because it fit nicely into that structure with the ages. Creators began to ask themselves difficult questions about sexuality, about politics, about why [superheroes] did what they did and what they stood for. Superheroes were psychopaths, villains became more excessive. It was a very creative period, so it's not like the Dark Ages in history when all the lights went out and there were a few monks scribbling for 500 years. I enjoyed it up to a point and then grew very rapidly disenchanted with it. I really liked Alan Moore's Marvelman, which was the first of these types of stories to really make an impact. It was a very logical approach to superhumans. But by the end of Watchmen, I was really tired of it. It wasn't helpful to take ideas that were so positive and reduce them to the gutter. It seemed like a dead end to me. I kind of felt it was more important to try and restore some kind of mythic potency, to make them mean something else to people.
What, exactly?
We’re so starved of Utopian images of where the human race might go, particularly in western culture. Basically we are told that the earth is doomed, the climate is going to collapse, that we're heading for extinction, we're using up the resources. There's a very dark and sinister story that we're telling ourselves. But I felt that one of the reasons why superheroes have become so popular again and broken out of the comics and into the mainstream, was because people were so desperately starved of an image of humanity that gave us some hope for the future.
How do you feel about the current state of superhero comics?
Things are going down dramatically every month in superhero comics. The comics themselves are much better written and drawn than they've ever been, but kids don't really buy them anymore. They can get them for free online. All popular culture is dealing with that. It's not just comics.
Is there a future for superhero comics?
It's really quite hard to predict. The way DC Comics are dealing with it right now is to kind of start at ground zero. As of September things are being taken back to number-one issues and being re-created for modern sensibilities. The idea that comics are now backed into a corner is leading to some very interesting and creative solutions for getting out of the corner. Whether there remains a mass-market audience for print is something that the next five and ten years will prove to us.
the rest is here
I hate legality stuff because I'm pants at it, but I'd like to share some squee about the comic that I'm reading right now. It's daredevil no. 1 by Mark Waid

Look at the bright panels, and the whimsy of daredevil. I haven't seen that in a while - and I've been reading Daredevil off and on since 1989. The story seems to be thus: Daredevil's received a tip that someone is here to kidnap a member of a high ranking mob family. Daredevil's swung by to put a stop to it.

The chap called Spot is the one who's been hired to do the deed. The artist interprets Daredevil's powers in a new and striking way. It's the first of a new arc of the relaunch. The comic seems as if it's going to be absolutely delightful, with Matt Murdock deciding that he's going to force himself to be happy, and make the most of what he's got. Sometimes, that's all it takes, really. You have to force yourself to come on, get happy until you're there. All I know is, I'm going to take a chance, and get it on my pull list.
Erm... do I have to tag this thing as well?
News of a new "Hulk" series has already been public for sometime, but Loeb confirmed the series was now in development at ABC and that it would be a "brand-new" take on the character centering on Bruce Banner's early days hiding his monstrous secret. Who will join the increasingly long line of actors to play Banner was not a part of the discussion.
Exciting new for "Avengers" fans was word that "AKA Jessica Jones," also for ABC, is finally gaining traction. The series will focus on Jones, a former hero who decides to reboot her life as a private investigator. Loeb sparked buzz by promising that Jones' comic book lover, Luke Cage, and best friend, Carol Danvers (aka Ms. Marvel) would be regulars on the show.
"Cloak and Dagger" is in the works for another Disney property, ABC Family. This reinvention will find the duo living in post-Katrina New Orleans. In the comics, Cloak and Dagger were two former drug addicts who were the victims of a sythetic narcotic that gave them superpowers. They have been depicted as having a somewhat co-dependent relationship and not necessarily the most stable couple around. Whether "Cloak and Dagger" can be this dark on ABC Family remains to be seen.
Loeb's fourth and final project in serious development is "Mockingbird." Another longstanding "Avengers" member, this series appears as it will make the biggest jump from its literary origins. Loeb described it as 'Alias' meeets 'Felicity.' The current take finds Bobbi Morse a science major in college who is recruited to become a master spy by a secret intelligence agency (making this S.H.I.E.L.D. would be smart). In the comics, Mockingbird is an on again, off again love interest for Hawkeye and a longstanding member of The Avengers.
On the animated side, it was announced a cartoon version of Joss Whedon's "Astonishing X-Men" and "Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H." were in the works. No word on what network the two series will appear.
the link is here
Grant Morrison being interviewed by Vulture:
You split the book into four sections: the Golden Age, Silver Age, the Dark Age, and the Renaissance. Why call the third section, the eighties to early nineties, the Dark Ages?
That’s kind of the name that's been used by comic historians, I went along with it because it fit nicely into that structure with the ages. Creators began to ask themselves difficult questions about sexuality, about politics, about why [superheroes] did what they did and what they stood for. Superheroes were psychopaths, villains became more excessive. It was a very creative period, so it's not like the Dark Ages in history when all the lights went out and there were a few monks scribbling for 500 years. I enjoyed it up to a point and then grew very rapidly disenchanted with it. I really liked Alan Moore's Marvelman, which was the first of these types of stories to really make an impact. It was a very logical approach to superhumans. But by the end of Watchmen, I was really tired of it. It wasn't helpful to take ideas that were so positive and reduce them to the gutter. It seemed like a dead end to me. I kind of felt it was more important to try and restore some kind of mythic potency, to make them mean something else to people.
What, exactly?
We’re so starved of Utopian images of where the human race might go, particularly in western culture. Basically we are told that the earth is doomed, the climate is going to collapse, that we're heading for extinction, we're using up the resources. There's a very dark and sinister story that we're telling ourselves. But I felt that one of the reasons why superheroes have become so popular again and broken out of the comics and into the mainstream, was because people were so desperately starved of an image of humanity that gave us some hope for the future.
How do you feel about the current state of superhero comics?
Things are going down dramatically every month in superhero comics. The comics themselves are much better written and drawn than they've ever been, but kids don't really buy them anymore. They can get them for free online. All popular culture is dealing with that. It's not just comics.
Is there a future for superhero comics?
It's really quite hard to predict. The way DC Comics are dealing with it right now is to kind of start at ground zero. As of September things are being taken back to number-one issues and being re-created for modern sensibilities. The idea that comics are now backed into a corner is leading to some very interesting and creative solutions for getting out of the corner. Whether there remains a mass-market audience for print is something that the next five and ten years will prove to us.
the rest is here
I hate legality stuff because I'm pants at it, but I'd like to share some squee about the comic that I'm reading right now. It's daredevil no. 1 by Mark Waid

Look at the bright panels, and the whimsy of daredevil. I haven't seen that in a while - and I've been reading Daredevil off and on since 1989. The story seems to be thus: Daredevil's received a tip that someone is here to kidnap a member of a high ranking mob family. Daredevil's swung by to put a stop to it.

The chap called Spot is the one who's been hired to do the deed. The artist interprets Daredevil's powers in a new and striking way. It's the first of a new arc of the relaunch. The comic seems as if it's going to be absolutely delightful, with Matt Murdock deciding that he's going to force himself to be happy, and make the most of what he's got. Sometimes, that's all it takes, really. You have to force yourself to come on, get happy until you're there. All I know is, I'm going to take a chance, and get it on my pull list.
Erm... do I have to tag this thing as well?
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Date: 2011-07-24 06:32 pm (UTC)I'd probably watch all the live-action Marvel shows suggested. The animated... Hulk, I don't care about much (animatedly speaking, live action he works better for me because it's necessarily more about the on the run and less about smashing everything in sight and huge battles, due to a lower FX budget). Astonishing X-Men I believe I read will be the same "pseudo-animated" style they did before several times to the raw comic art, just doing it to Joss's complete run. And I can't get into that. If they're actually animated and adapting it, I'll watch it like mad, but otherwise I won't even give it the token look I might give Hulk.
And why do we STILL not have a Power Pack cartoon announced? Sheesh, you'd think it would be the most obvious of the obvious!
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Date: 2011-07-24 07:14 pm (UTC)They have met at least one other superpowered person resulting from the same drugs, a police offiver who took the name Mayhem
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Date: 2011-07-24 07:07 pm (UTC)Of course between Jim Lee; one of the postersboys of the 90's, Geoff Johns; Silver Age fanboy and Grant Morrison; writer obsessed with doing things on a grand scale, there's going to be a tug of war on direction
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Date: 2011-07-25 12:58 am (UTC)Police aiming guns at Batman's been around for years--it happened even in the Golden Age, after Robin came in and the stories became far lighter affairs.
Superman doesn't have the same support group in Ma & Pa Kent and Lois anymore, and he starts off more as an outlaw vigilante, but I would imagine with guys like Morrison handling him, he'll still have the same love for humanity as he always has.
Supergirl, while focusing more on the tragic aspects that are inherent in her origin, has been stated that it won't be completely dark and will have humor.
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Date: 2011-07-25 01:14 am (UTC)I don't see how Clark isn't a nice guy in this.
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Date: 2011-07-24 08:20 pm (UTC)On the one hand, it's quite arrogant to name this era after one of the most productive and groundbreaking eras for art in European history.
On the other, the Renaissance was literally a rebirth of classical learning by going back to original texts, and if DC are doing anything just now then it's going back to the original texts to tell their stories.
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Date: 2011-07-24 09:40 pm (UTC)Call me optimistic but this fills me with so much glee for television, you have no idea.
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Date: 2011-07-24 09:54 pm (UTC)not that different
Date: 2011-07-25 12:22 am (UTC)This is actually Mockingbird's origin; working for SHIELD, she adventured with Ka-Zar some and then got noticed by Fury and assigned the costumed identity of the Huntress, prior to getting shot and, after recuperating, taing on the ID of Mockingbird.
This is all in some old Marvel Adventures issues maybe? it's hard to find, the '70s Ka-Zar, and then a Marvel Team-Up issue.