Date: 2011-09-09 04:15 am (UTC)
mullon: (Default)
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If he doesn't have the beard then what's the goddamn point?

Date: 2011-09-09 05:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] miramira
Part of my brain knows it's wrong, but the other part is going "Ooh, pretty." (And then the other part is going "WHO CARES, IT'S OLLIE; YOU DON'T LIKE HIM, REMEMBER?")

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Date: 2011-09-09 04:18 am (UTC)
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JURRRRGENS!!!

Date: 2011-09-09 06:19 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
With Perez on inks... a combination I rather like!

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Date: 2011-09-09 04:19 am (UTC)
kamino_neko: Tedd from El Goonish Shive. Drawn by Dan Shive, coloured by Kamino Neko. (Default)
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The costume is very Smallville. I like it, but it's kind of weird seeing it in this context.

And good lord is Ollie young.

Date: 2011-09-09 04:23 am (UTC)
pyrotwilight: (Default)
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Oh that's OLLIE at the end. Regardless of words I see a redhead in an arrow book and say OH HEY ROY.

Date: 2011-09-09 05:43 am (UTC)
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THANK YOU!

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Date: 2011-09-09 04:33 am (UTC)
aaron_bourque: default (Default)
From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
I'M REALLY TRYING TO GROW A GOATEE HERE, TAKE ME SERIOUSLY

Date: 2011-09-09 05:05 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
And really, without the endearing buffoon part, the dickishness comes off very dicky.

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Date: 2011-09-09 04:53 am (UTC)
majingojira: (Bruce is a Tard)
From: [personal profile] majingojira
I'm more intrigued by Substitute Oracle Naomi.

Intrigued that she exists, mostly.

Date: 2011-09-09 05:49 am (UTC)
aaron_bourque: default (Default)
From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
Unfortunately, without Babs in the role, the universe is trying desperately to fill in the void. So there's probably a dozen Fauxracles.

Or more.

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Date: 2011-09-09 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] omgwtflolbbqbye
The tip of the arrow on his belt buckle looks unfortunately curved in that first panel.

And by unfortunate I of course mean the opposite.

Date: 2011-09-09 10:37 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kd_the_movie
Yeah I LOL'd when I saw it.

And ironically it would be the perfect logo for Ollie.

Date: 2011-09-09 05:10 am (UTC)
thehefner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehefner
So, I'm genuinely wondering if their apparently ploy to win over the Smallville audience over to comics is actually working. I mean, that's clearly what they're doing here, right?

Date: 2011-09-09 08:02 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
I can't see any other reason. I read this thing, and however much you dress it up with pretty Perez art, you still have a very mediocre thing left when you take Ollie's charm away.

I think they're trying to Starkize him.

Date: 2011-09-09 05:22 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] harpers_child
when did Roy bleach his hair? if that's Ollie, when did he lose the bet and have to shave off his beard?

the face in that last panel is a little walter kovacs.

Date: 2011-09-09 05:43 am (UTC)
sigmund_droid: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sigmund_droid
I dub this BBB


Blond Batman with Bow

that's not a good thing...

Date: 2011-09-09 05:52 am (UTC)
aaron_bourque: default (Default)
From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
But GA has ALWAYS been a blond Batman-ripoff with a bow . . .

Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque; well, not always. But seriously. ALWAYS.

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Date: 2011-09-09 05:50 am (UTC)
big_daddy_d: (Default)
From: [personal profile] big_daddy_d
Honesty? I like this book. Loved the action, the pacing, and story. Not to mention the new toy Ollie has to play with. I'm a GA fan, always will be. But more than that I'm a bigger Roy Harper fan and almost everything in this book screamed Roy Harper.

1. He looks exactly like Roy.

2. He has secret agent esque adventures, which is Roy's style.

3. Uses a weapon other than bow and Arrow like Roy.

Plus just the overall vibe. Of course being a company man is Ollie's thing. Having a team that feeds him info via wireless communication, eh more fit for Roy in my opinion but I can see Ollie using it too.

Plus another thing..while he looks like Roy in his own book...in Justice League International he looks like Connor! So..really is there an artist who can draw Ollie to look like fucking Ollie?!

P.S. - As much as I really hope Lian, Connor, and Mia make a return, I do hope Galahad and The Queen make a return as well. Queen was a great villain and it's a shame to lose her.

Date: 2011-09-09 06:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tsunamiwombat
I hope Galahad makes a return becausse a gent whose crazy and may or may not infact be the reincarnation of an 8th century knight of the round table is just a great character.

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Date: 2011-09-09 06:21 am (UTC)
tsunamiwombat: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tsunamiwombat
See people are saying they don't like Ollie here and I feel the exact opposite. He seems like an actual damn hero, someone who wants to help people, not a cavorting philanderer.

I get that the Erol Flynn thing is part of his charm and I do like to see a guy enjoying his work and I hope he does have that part to his personality, but a reset of the Ollie whose this constant sanctimonious asshole who cheats on his wife every other issue? yes PLOX.

Date: 2011-09-09 12:42 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Yea, I gotta agree. Recent GA has not impressed me, but this guy might be better.

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Date: 2011-09-09 06:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] darkblade
Seriously, Batman loses Oracle and Ollie gets one without the whole fridging problem. I need to go make a hole in my wall now.

Date: 2011-09-09 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkysharps.livejournal.com
You know, I'm sure there's a story here, and there's characters doing things to move it along, but the only thing I can register is, "Where is your beard? Where is your beard? WHERE IS YOUR GODDAMNED BEARD?"

There are exactly two superheroes I can literally not envision without a beard, and Green Arrow is one of them.

Date: 2011-09-09 08:04 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
It's like shaving Odin.

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Date: 2011-09-09 08:04 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
"INSANE RICH MAN TERRORIZES THE NIGHT WITH ARROWS."

Date: 2011-09-09 08:50 am (UTC)
cainofdreaming: cain's mark (pic#364829)
From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
The Beard That Walks has no beard? What a silly, silly world.

Date: 2011-09-09 09:18 am (UTC)
aaron_bourque: default (Default)
From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
I guess he got tired of being mistaken for Travis Morgan.

Date: 2011-09-09 10:05 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] runespoor
He doesn't make me want to laugh and he doesn't have a beard or a silly Robin Hood hat. He's... terribly, terribly young.

Frankly I don't see the appeal of making Ollie so goddamn young. That's like making Captain Haddock young. You don't do that.

Plus my usual problem with Dan Jurgens' characters, that makes them look oddly unsympathetic to me.

Date: 2011-09-09 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Wait...Jurgens is the artist, not the writer.

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Date: 2011-09-09 11:42 am (UTC)
kirke_novak: (Marvel: Deadpool WTF?!)
From: [personal profile] kirke_novak
No goatee? THEN I CAN'T BE BOTHERED READING THIS! TA!

Date: 2011-09-09 01:24 pm (UTC)
nyadnar17: The Green Sign (Default)
From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
Maybe I need to read more of the issue, but I have no clue who that guy running around in the Green suit is. I mean sure people are calling him Ollie and he uses a bow, but I am not feeling any of the fun or swashbuckling I associate with the character. I mean the only other thing Ollie has going for him is old man snark and even that is gone.

Who is this guy?

Date: 2011-09-10 10:35 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
That was exactly my reaction. They simply ended Ollie, and there's this very generic and not very engaging generic dickhead in his place.

I'm not like a regular Ollie fan, but I do like him, and I wonder what more active fans of Ollie think. I mean, Ollie is kind of a dick, but not in this manner.This guy seems to be all about...you know what? Having read JL 1, I think I'm seeing a pattern here. DC's heroes now seem to be about "my dick is bigger than yours."

There's a disturbing 90s Image/Heroes Reborn vibe to the #1s I've seen from DC so far. That's not helped by the prominent presence of much of the personnel. I nominate this and HAWK & DOVE as being the first casualties of the relaunch. That's my prediction.

Date: 2011-09-09 02:29 pm (UTC)
thedropout: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thedropout
I like how even his tools are green. The man has a vision.

BTW, what keeps his mask on? Does he actually superglue it to his face?

Date: 2011-09-09 03:23 pm (UTC)
junipepper: (jumplines)
From: [personal profile] junipepper
It's the same thing that's holding Starfire's new costume up.

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Date: 2011-09-09 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Hmm. So, they basically got Tony Stark, dyed his hair blonde, and have him running around with a bow and arrow and the standard Batman gadgets?

On the nose, it isn't a BAD direction to take Ollie in, but I think they need to give some more dimension to Ollie's character in order to make it work--because right now, he kinda looks like Generic Hero #70175.

Date: 2011-09-09 11:08 pm (UTC)
coldfiredragon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] coldfiredragon
This was my impression as well... The vibe from this book was that they took the first Iron Man movie and essentially stole a large chunk of the plot. He REALLY felt like Tony to me.

OH... heh sorry... the stealing the plot from Iron Man really doesn't show in these images. I will elaborate if you ask..

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From: [personal profile] detective_deathman08
Green Arrow really needs ome love, I hope this book answers his cry for justice.

Date: 2011-09-10 10:33 am (UTC)
thokstar: Spot (Default)
From: [personal profile] thokstar
Is Naomi supposed to be an alt version of the daughter he fought in his Flashpoint one-shot?

I can't decide if reusing that character is stupid or brilliant or both.

Date: 2011-09-10 10:39 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
It does seem though that the Flashpoint stuff was in fact a trial balloon. This is the same guy, only with balls. That seem to be choking him, but balls.

And I don't like that guy either way.

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Date: 2011-09-11 04:08 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
I think we're supposed to assume that every character's treatment in NuDC is based on what Barry Allen thought of them, as he's the one that basically remade the universe.

So judging from that: damn, Barry hated Ollie.

Date: 2011-09-12 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] philippos42
I suspect Jurgens is phoning it in at this point.

Ollie has had the beard since 1970. It's practically part of the trademark. Replacing him with generic blond Dan Jurgens hero seems foolish to me.

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