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So not sure who hasn't heard by now but Wonder Woman is getting a Daddy and it is none other than the Big Kahuna of the Olympian pantheon himself.

I'm not totally sure how I feel about this.

On the one hand, it seems like a push to turn Diana into just a female version of Hercules. It wouldn't be much of a stretch to say that the whole reason Hera has a hate on for her now is that she's one of Zeus's illegitimate kids and therefore she's now the target for the goddess of marriage's vengeance, just like with Herc.

The whole child of Zeus thing has been kind of done to death too. I mean I know the guy gets around but I don't know, it just seems overdone. I might have preferred for her father to be Hades or something (Ares would have been a little too creepy).

On the other I think that her having a dad will, I don't know, make her seem a little more grounded? The whole fatherless from clay bit always seemed to make her a little too Messiah-like, a little too Up There. Also I have faith that Azzarello will do good things with this and won't turn her into a whiny angsty teen with daddy issues.

I don't know. I'm mixed really. Thoughts?

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Date: 2011-10-10 08:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] speedingtortoise
"The only way most men, including me, can relate to this character is if we can somehow ensure that we're not excluded from her power; that we are, in fact, responsible for it."

Hm . . . that is a troubling thought. It is kinda iffy if suddenly Hippolyta wasn't the sole source of her powers but rather a male God. Hopefully Diana's powers will be explained as to have come equally from both parents. I hope this gets brought to the writer's attention in some way.

That being said though, I have a feeling (and I could be completely wrong) that Azzarello's logic that everyone has a father was not to say that Diana needed a father for males to relate to her or feel a sense of control over her power but rather the simple idea that Diana, like every other person in the world, was created by a male and female organism. But who knows what's going on in his head.

(Hope I'm coherent here, this sounds a little jumbled in my own head)



Date: 2011-10-10 08:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Thing is, pre this reveal, Hippolyta was never the source of her powers anyway, Artemis, Hestia, Athena, Aphrodite and Hermes were.

Date: 2011-10-10 08:43 pm (UTC)
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Oh really? Hm, just goes to show how little I know about Wonder Woman haha. I've never really had an indepth understanding of her origins and history.

Date: 2011-10-10 08:48 pm (UTC)
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To be fair, in the Perez reboot, Hippolyta had originally been a cavewoman who was murdered by her mate. Her soul was taken by the gods of Greece along with the souls of many other women who had died by violence at the hands of men. They were eventually reincarnated and given new bodies as the Amazons. Hippolyta had been unique though, as of all the proto-Amazon-souls, she alone had been pregnant at the time.

So the clay body she created on the orders of the gods, was infused with the unborn soul of her child, and given powers by the gods. So whilst they gave Diana her speed, strength and the like, Hippolyta was, in every sense worth the using, the one to give her life.

Date: 2011-10-10 09:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] speedingtortoise
Wow . . . . I really had no idea whatsoever about all that. I really need to read more about Wondy the next time I'm at ye olde libarary.

Date: 2011-10-11 02:42 am (UTC)
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Wow, I missed that entirely.

Actually I think the only origin story I ever really read was the one my mother used to have in a (maybe 2 ft. by 3 ft.) frame; I think it was the background of a picture of Wondy and that it was bought that way. I mean, it was a reproduction, don't get excited, but I think it may have been a repro of the original origin. I couldn't swear to that.

In retrospect, kind of an cool thing for a suburban American mom-type to display in her living room in the 1970's , anyway so - go, Mom. I wonder what ever happened to that thing...

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