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In my opinion? This issue was quite drastically better than the last one.





There was a lot of cheesy but fun-in-an-eighties-movie-way action, a lot of snark, and a lot of sexual banter - most of it at Jason and Roy's expense this time and some of it about Roy checking out Jason's ass, ha ha. Starfire was also much, much more self-actualised than she appeared last issue, which was good to see. She was still somewhat subdued, but her compassionate nature - and the fact that she doesn't take any shit - was evident. Her memory problem also doesn't seem to be as extreme as the last issue made it sound like it was - she doesn't have any trouble telling her team mates apart here, and she definitely remembers sleeping with Roy, although it doesn't look like she has any immediate plans for a repeat performance.

And this time the main plotline actually seemed, you know, main. The art was gorgeous, with both Roy and Jason drawn beautifully. Unfortunately, although Kory's fanservicey portrayal has been scaled back a lot, it still seems that Kenneth Rocafort draws men much more charmingly, gracefully and *naturally* then he does women.

There were lots of pages that I could name as my favourites, but for the sake of clarity I'll post the last three - which are also the three where the most genuine interactions between the Outlaws take place.


This page picks up where the last issue left off, with Jason finding the body of his former mentor, Ducra - who speaks to him in ghostly form before departing, telling him (fondly) that he''s learned nothing, because he's still all about the vengeance; yep, that's our boy all right.




I wonder if he can't shoot them because they were his friends, or because he feels empathy for anything that died brutally and was brought back damaged?




Interesting that for all he rips on Roy, he doesn't consider it 'his place' to tell him what to do. The person telling him to "see past your past" is part of a flashback to his training with Ducra, by the way.




Hmm. A past he forgot he ever had. Just a throwaway line for sentimentalities' sake, or a hint at the upcoming memory-themed plot in the next issue? And perhaps Kory's lost memories of her past have something to do with all this too.

Date: 2011-10-19 09:50 pm (UTC)
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Um... I get the strong impression that Lobdell saw the backlash and beat a very hasty retreat, actually. Jason in particular seems to have done a personality 180, now being the more private, mature man with Roy as his fratboy-foil.

I'm sure this is what happened! As for Jason being a private person can deal with this! Jason's a bat after all, makes sense he'd value privacy on some levels. He came across as genuinely... caring... which is something I didn't expect. I liked it. The issue was really good about getting into his revised back-story. I thought it was great how his past was mixed in with the fight in the present

Date: 2011-10-19 10:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] coldfiredragon
There is no way Lobdell missed the backlash. I'm pretty proud of him in all honestly. This issue had some really good spots were he went out of his way to show that Kori thinks for herself and about her companions. Her getting the car and having it waiting is the biggest example. It might not have been subtle but the thought was good.

He did make a couple comments in the month since the last issue came out, basically that he hadn't intended for things to be interpreted as badly as they were, that Kori was being sarcastic when she said she didn't remember things, ect... He also made comments about how shocked he was by some of the things people had said to him. He got the message and in my opinion did his best to make amends here.

Date: 2011-10-20 02:03 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, his comments made it sound like he knew he'd upset people but he was refusing to back down... but I wouldn't be surprised if he actually did in the end (and if he did, I'm very glad of that).

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