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- Failsafe
Brief synopsis: Earth is invaded by mysterious aliens, and as the JLA is quickly taken out by them, leaving the Team to mount a resistance movement on their lonesome. As time goes on things go from bad to worse, the aliens look like they might very well win, but how will the team fare?

Review: On the whole, I wasn't a huge fan of this episode. Don't get me wrong, the voice actors do a REALLY good job in this episode, particularly Miss Martian's, and the plot is pretty much well constructed... It just didn't grab me that much.

Maybe it's because BTAS' Over the Edge held a similar thing and did it better, I don't know. I just didn't really get a good feel of the story this time around.

But, on the plus side, yay for Megan getting a power-up, something that was hinted at back in the episode with Psimon way back when. The team continuing their trend of having more than one outfit depending on the situation also continued, with them exhibiting Arctic versions of their costumes, which were cool to see.

On the whole, there were good elements, but it worked better as a set up for the next episode, Disordered, which I also review below.

The cameos weren't really that huge compared to previous episodes either, though we do get appearences of,
- Brother Eye (in the form of Batman's spy satellites).

- Iris West

- Wonder Woman makes her first appearance in yoinks, but she disappears again pretty quickly. Although I do like that they're giving lesser known heroines room to breathe in this series, I do hope that she at least gets a line at some point. Especially as she's apparently been superheroing in this universe for at least WW2 according to one interview I read a while ago.

- the alien motherships look amusingly like the same technology used by the pseudoWhite Martians from the opening episodes of Justice League, back in the DCAU.

- General Wade Eiling appears, and the fact that he's not an ass to the characters could possibly be seen as an indicator that the Team are aware of him, but not of his possible anti-meta prejudices.

- Jason Bard, aka the private detective that dated Barbara Gordon for a while appeared. And, again, he hurt his leg.

- Megan and Conner's schoolfriends reappeared, including the Wonder Twins.

- Icon, Zatanna, Garth and his Atlantean girlfriend showed up as a back up resistance group.

- And during a motivational speech by Robin, Alfred, Barbara and Bette can be seen cheering him on.

Disordered
Synopsis: Traumatised by the events of the above episode, the Team are councilled by Black Canary as they try to get past what they endured. And while that's going on, Conner teams up with the Forever People and gets an in on the Kirby side of the Young Justice Universe.

Review: I liked this episode a lot. Not as much as the Red Tornado one, but it was still a great episode for the most part.

Little details such as the New Gods speaking a different language to humans, NOT automatically fighting Conner because he had their "property" and references to the Religion of Crime were also kind of cool.

All around I was impressed that the episode not only managed to build some more on Conner's character, he's now very different from the angry jerk he was when the series began, but it also fleshed out not only the other members of the team but also some of the adults that supervise them as well. Black Canary shows multiple parts of her character that were interesting to see, such as her recounting how she once stopped speaking for a while after she accidentally near-deafened her First Grade Class.

The Forever People were an interesting bunch, each managing to show something of a personality in the relatively brief time they were on screen. The connotations behind them all merging into one form to fight evil were actually addressed, to my suprised. Addressed hilariously so,

Conner: Glad me and my team aren't that close.
Wolf: Lower beings tend to fear... intimacy.

The introduction of Intergang and Desaad were both fairly well handled, with the latter definately giving off vibes of creepiness from everything from his character design (he appears to have been blended with the Elephant Man) to his voice acting. Kudos to the creative team for that.

I am interested as to how they slot into the Grand Scheme being planned by Lex, Ra's and the other members of the Light though. The Psimon episode indicated that the Light appeared to have SOME kind of thing going on with the Fourth World, but the shape of it isn't really as clear as it was in STAS' version. There Darkseid and his mob slowly tested the waters for an invasion by providing Intergang with weapons to test on Superman (Earth's most powerful defender at the time), trying to indoctrinate children via Granny Goodness etc. Here... I don't know. We'll have to wait and see.

I am REALLY looking forward to how they treat Darkseid though, as for the most part the YJUniverse has had some really good versions of DC's characters so far, Brent Spiner's somewhat... lackluster version of the Joker not withstanding (personally I'd have gotten John DiMaggio back, because he's pretty much awesome in whatever he does).

In all, a great episode in a number of different levels, and leaves open some interesting plotlines to be picked up in the future as well.

Oh, and Wolf was hilarious in this episode. From his suprise at the Supercycle to him riding around in it he was awesome nearly everytime he was on screen. The shapeshifting New Goddess pretending to be a bankrobber's mother and othering him a coat was also really funny.

A minor thing that I thought was morbidly interesting, was how the human criminals pointed out that it would be easier just to smoosh Superboy, but Desaad just handwaves this suggestion by saying that the thing they were trying to kill Superboy with had part of his personality, and thus wouldn't kill him because it was more amusing to make it more drawn out and painful.

SO: by taking the more evil route they just left an outing for the hero to escape, thus showing one of the main problems with villains like Desaad, who define themselves by their villainy. The problem in that they're really... at the end of the day kind of thick. And no matter now many wholesome teenage superheroines he might possess, dress in S&M gear, give boobjobs and murder folk, Desaad's still the kind of bad guy who'd fail at robbing a bank because he'd park his car across free disabled parking bays, getting towed in the processs.

Being evil for evil's sake is one thing, but when you've got a goal beyond just messing with people, doin't let the urge to be an asshole get in the way of efficiency.

Okey, Cameos.
- The Forever People! Don't ask me their names, I'm more familiar with the team they inspired during Final Crisis.


- the New Genesis Sphere morphs into the Supercycle, which Wally dubs it as such at the end of the episode.


- Whisper, in the comics she's a former servant of Ra's al Ghul and current prominent member of the Relgion of Crime. Here she's more of the token female member of Intergang. No snakepowers, at least none shown on screen.


- Ugly Mannheim. I found him more interesting in the Intergang/Darkseid storyline in STAS to be honest.


- Infinity Man, aka a cross between Captain Planet and a Power Rangers' robot. With more Innuendo!


- Desaad, now with more lumps! Also, he seems to have borrowed a disguise from Total Recall. HA!


For legality, a contextless panel from a romance comic,

Date: 2011-11-12 06:08 pm (UTC)
auggie18: (Default)
From: [personal profile] auggie18
I liked Disordered almost as much as I disliked Failsafe, which is to say, very much. Failsafe seems likes it's putting a lot in motion, which I like, but for the most part it seemed kinda weak. The twist ending was pretty obvious and characterization seemed sorta flat. It didn't have the right atmosphere, exactly.

Disordered was really good, though. You can really see a difference in Superboy's attitude, the little details you mentioned were spot on, and that scene with Robin was amazing. You could really feel for the kid. I liked that they make a point that kids going through this sort of stuff would legitimately be tramautized and would benefit from talking it out. It's something I'd like to see carried over to comics more, actually. (Super-therapy!)

Meggan's interview was the weak point in the episode, in my opinion. The foreshadowing was pretty clumsy and she sounded flat and not all that invested in the scene.

So glad that the ball turned out to be the SuperCycle. I thought that that's what it was back when it was introduced and hopefully now it'll be in spotlight more.

Not really getting the point of Wolf. He's just always kind of there now. Maybe he'll be a spy?

Date: 2011-11-12 11:57 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Wolf is a pet, and someone that Superboy can relate to, a genuine "lone wolf". Animals have been used as socialisation therapy in the past, I see Wolf as his.

Date: 2011-11-12 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
Super-Cycle is going to mate with M'gann's smartship isn't it?

Date: 2011-11-12 06:16 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
It'd be cute if they got intimate! :)

Date: 2011-11-12 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
Hopefully they combine into a giant unstoppable fighting robot during the act of coitus.

Date: 2011-11-12 06:21 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Supercycle linking with Infinity Man was very...Megazordish! :)

Date: 2011-11-14 01:58 am (UTC)
bariman: by perletwo (Default)
From: [personal profile] bariman
Now that you mention it, it would be really cool if the Bio-Ship and the Super-Cycle did the Megazord thing to save the team at some point.

Date: 2011-11-13 12:35 am (UTC)
rdfox: Joker asking Tim Drake, "'Sup?" from Paul Dini's "Slay Ride" (Default)
From: [personal profile] rdfox
I'm not sure Cartoon Network would be ready to have two female vehicles mating...

Date: 2011-11-13 08:48 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Is M'Gann's ship female?

Date: 2011-11-13 12:41 pm (UTC)
bariman: by perletwo (Default)
From: [personal profile] bariman
M'Gann says it is. But given that both the Super-Cycle and the Bio-Ship and semi-living technology, I don't think that should be a problem. *waits for the fic and/or fanart*

Date: 2011-11-13 01:39 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I just need to hear "Je T'aime" playing and I can envisage just about any combination imaginable. :)

Date: 2011-11-15 09:06 am (UTC)
eyz: (Barbara Gordon)
From: [personal profile] eyz
Mmmh...the possibilities...

*can't...take the pictures..out of my mind...*

Date: 2011-11-14 03:01 am (UTC)
tacobob: Mordecai Not Very Impressed (Default)
From: [personal profile] tacobob
I love the show. Love the voice actors. Love the animators. The writers, everyone! Great show. Looks like a cute kids show at first, but it can be dark. Like the Susan Strong episode. Dark shadowy monsters chewing on those corpses..Yeeeeck.

Date: 2011-11-12 06:20 pm (UTC)
thanekos: Seiga Kaku from Touhou 13, shadowed. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
Somebody accidentally extruded a few edges off Desaad's face, it seems.

Date: 2011-11-12 06:20 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
The Forever People are;

Vykin (formerly "Vykin the Black", but wisely dropped IMHO). Who has magnetic powers.

Moonrider (Formerly "Mark Moonrider) - Energy pulses (formerly a "megaton touch")

Dreamer (Formerly Beautiful Dreamer) - Psionic

Big Bear (I like he noted that there was no word on Earth for the kind of animal he generally is compared to so picked an Earth term)

Serafin - The cosmic cowboy, with the energy blasting six shooters (and formerly gimmicked bullet shaped weapons known as "cosmic cartridges")

And by their powers combined, they are CAPTAIN PLA... I mean "Infinity Man".

Date: 2011-11-12 08:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverzeo
Like Disordered because it had Superboy being closer to the SUperboy I read growing up. Having a Bike that cna fly and hack into giant robots. Nice.

Date: 2011-11-12 08:03 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I'm actually sort of envisaging Darkseid being the one actually running "The Light", from behind the scenes. The Light hiding the "Dark" seems too good to miss IMHO.

Loved M;Gann's little moment when she thinks she'd done something she actually hasn't (though Canary did sort of set the moment up by using a term other than "human", which would perhaps be more obvious, but less triggering)

Date: 2011-11-12 08:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
As much as this show seems great with it's huge smattering of nods and winks and the like to the DCU as a whole, I have to admit I never, ever expected them to reference Rucka's pretty sweet old Batman run and Whisper A'Daire.

I hope she gets the snake powers at some point, if she's elaborated on some more - She definitely seems to have snake-esque eyes, judging from those caps.

Date: 2011-11-13 12:02 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I was thinking she was going to be Bernadeth or Lashina of the Female Furies.

Date: 2011-11-13 12:25 am (UTC)
anothermoviegeek: (Default)
From: [personal profile] anothermoviegeek
11 years ago is now considered "old"? ;)

Date: 2011-11-13 01:42 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
It usually depends how old the person saying it is. Based on little or no research, anything which is either half their age, or before they were ten years of age, is "old" by definition.

Date: 2011-11-12 11:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mullon
I think it's a bad sign that Superboy is only written likably when he's not part of the team and a part of some other team instead.

Date: 2011-11-12 11:59 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I think the thing there though is that A) All the Forever People operate at his level of power, the likes of Artemis and Robin don't, so he feels, at some level, that he is among people like him.

B) The Forever People he just has to work with, he doesn't really get to know them well. That's easier than learning to socialise better the way he needs to do with the YJ team.

Date: 2011-11-13 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] celestialchild
I think part of the problem is also that he's only really defined by his relationships with two people thus far in the series: M'gann, who made a special effort to reach out to him, and is also an alien, and Superman, who is NOT reaching out to him at all

They haven't really let Superboy bond with anyone else on the team, however friendly they might be, and I'm not yet ready to call it a weakness, because thus far they've handled character development pretty well, so I can be patient for Superboy's. I'm hoping that now that things with M'gann have been settled (although I am wondering what will happen between them since the events of Failsafe), they will begin to steer him elsewhere.

Date: 2011-11-13 02:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] clemon
The thing about Failsafe for me was while it was good, it was also kind of narmy. When Artemis "died", Wally's voice got emotional while he still appearing very stiff. It was hilarious.

Even though I knew the characters weren't dead, (The next episodes' previews spoiled that) it was interesting to see how the other characters "reacted". I was actually surprised that there wasn't at SBxMM "hold me" moments (which is explained in the next episode).

Now...Disorder was very good. You got my favourite line (re: "intimacy"). And I think Serafin (cowboy kid) was my favourite of the Forever People from this episode. I don't know why.

It's interesting as YJ focuses on the more minor characters of DC we see more minor characters of New Genesis (no Orion, and Darkseid isn't even mentioned by name)--making it all more believable. :)

Date: 2011-11-13 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] celestialchild
Yeah, I think that was an animation fail. Wally's voice actor nailed the lines well enough, but the animation didn't match up at all.

I was surprised about the lack SBxMM "hold me" screen time as well, and pleasantly surprised with the decision not to send them in that direction after the events of Failsafe. I'm curious how they will develop this potential conflict in their relationship, and if it will force them to reach out to others instead.

Date: 2011-11-13 05:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pyrotwilight
Psst, it was actually Rocket, not Icon who was with the Roy, Tula, Garth and Zatanna backup team in Failsafe. But it's okay. She is Icon's sidekick. Icon does get a breif mention as one of the fallen heroes in it.

Date: 2011-11-14 02:03 am (UTC)
bariman: by perletwo (Default)
From: [personal profile] bariman
Batman mentions Superboy's "report." I bet said report consisted of him excitedly gushing about the adventure, and meeting new friends from another planet, and taking down some bad guys, and now he has a flying motorcycle with lasers, and it was the best angsty brooding ever!

Date: 2011-11-16 11:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] myhovercraftisfullofeels
I'm in the boat with most people where I thought Failsafe was "meh" but Disordered was "freaking sweet".

The best part of Failsafe (in my opinion) was how Wally reacted to Artemis' death. It showed how attached he'd gotten to her. The worst part is that Miss Martian is becoming a little Mary Sue for my taste. But while the episode on the whole was so-so, it dead GREAT in setting up Disordered.

Which was fantastic. The characters got more development in this one episode then probably all season. Superboy is now leaps and bounds away from the angstry (angsty/angry) boy we saw at the beginning. Just when I was worried they were focusing too much on the Supermartian relationship, he gets to shine on his own and be totally freaking awesome. Again we get the Wally/Artemis relationship progression, but the best part was Dick. Oh, Dick. All along we've been seeing the experienced, calm, collected Robin, who was trained by Batman to be a cool and efficient crime fighter. But now we see Dick Grayson, a 13-year old kid who's had to grow up way too fast and is scared. On a related note, I was blown away by Jesse McCartney's voice acting in that scene. Fantastic.

I also loved the parallel of Dick and Kaldur. Dick is afraid that not being willing to sacrifice himself for the mission makes him an insufficient leader, and Kaldur is afraid that he's an insufficient leader BECAUSE he sacrificed himself for the mission. Hmm.

But I think the best part of all is they're finally starting to call him Connor.

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