Date: 2012-01-04 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Is it just me, or is anyone else having a problem with Noto's Jubilee here? I'm not sure if it's because of ethnic features that is often not drawn, or if Noto's switched up how he's drawn her, but something's throwing me off.

I do find it interesting that they're grooming X-23 to be a "future leader."

Date: 2012-01-04 07:06 pm (UTC)
auggie18: (Default)
From: [personal profile] auggie18
Wow, I had the opposite reaction. I really like how Jubs was drawn here. *shrugs*

Date: 2012-01-04 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I don't even think it looks bad, just...not what I expect when I'm looking at Jubilee. I don't recall her being drawn like this when Noto did the Wolverine & Jubilee mini a while back.

Date: 2012-01-04 08:34 pm (UTC)
ravenous_raven: Silhouette of Fables' Medea in cat form, "Witch Cat" in a corner (Witch Cat)
From: [personal profile] ravenous_raven
It looks as if she's squinting the whole time. At night. In the Dark and shadows. -_- I think it's the way the bottom of here eyes are pushed up as if she's actively engaging the muscles.

Date: 2012-01-04 07:18 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (ask the questions)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
okay.... where it says Jubes and Laura break up a sex slave ring... i really though it said Jubes and Laura .... Break up Sex.... (what has this group done to me...)

It doesn't help that in the second page it looks like they are going infor a kiss.... are the creators "One of Us?"

also Widow Watching Laura....

Date: 2012-01-04 07:28 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
*is filled with glee at the break up sex thing interpretation*

i was like.... but but... when did they... break in....?

heh, Liu is going to DC now isn't she.... i know she has a project... i just forgot where...

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Date: 2012-01-04 07:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rordulum
So... Natasha is going to be teaching at the Avengers Academy as well as being a Secret Avenger, and travelling with Bucky, sorting out the ghosts of his past? She must have acquired Wolverine's teleportation powers.

This art works quite well for Laura, who I'd assume would be blank faced a lot of the time, but not so much for the other characters, in the book.

X-23 has been quite enjoyable, though I didn't like how Liu wrote Julian, and dismissed him so summarily. Still, it's a shame to see it go, and a bigger shame to see Laura dumped in some second rate teen team book.

Date: 2012-01-04 07:25 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
and a bigger shame to see Laura dumped in some second rate teen team book.

hey now, harsh a bit...

i actually, and many mebers here, enjoy AA. the writer is able to tell a story with a team book and pretty much give equal time and developement to all the characters.

Date: 2012-01-04 08:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rordulum
Eh. I gave that book a try, but couldn't bring myself to care about any of the characters, except Julie Power.

I liked Laura in New X-Men, and in her own book, but I struggle to see her fitting in with anything approaching an Avengers team.

Date: 2012-01-04 08:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rordulum
Yeah, Liu at least hit on some aspects of his character accurately, I thought.

Still, I really wish there was a writer who cared about the character, and would take it upon themselves to deal with him properly.

But the whole thing stank to me of, 'I don't like this relationship, and I don't like this character being associated with Laura, so I'm going to end it'.

Of course, I'll out myself as a big hypocrite and say I'm hoping beyond hope that she does the same with Gambit and Rogue in Astonishing, and kills Romy dead, finally. It's about time Gambit got to be more like the fun character he once was.

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Date: 2012-01-04 07:38 pm (UTC)
valismedsen: (Default)
From: [personal profile] valismedsen
In which series/issues is Natasha travelling with Bucky?
Also, is he dead or not after Feart Itself?

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Date: 2012-01-04 08:05 pm (UTC)
rordulum: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rordulum
Winter Soldier, a new ongoing, starting in February, written by Brubaker, art by Butch Guice. I'm looking forward to it very much.

His death was faked in Fear Itself. The injuries were real, but he just about pulled through, and Natasha convinced Nick Fury to take the opportunity to help Bucky 'disappear', and get away from being hounded by the Russian and American govts.

They were last seen heading out of town on Bucky's motorbike at the end of Captain America & Bucky 624.

Date: 2012-01-04 08:03 pm (UTC)
batman: Jaime Reyes and Batman from Blue Beetle (you'll never know that you're my heeeero)
From: [personal profile] batman
I still don't get why Julian's watching her like a creeper in this issue. That's pretty out of character for someone whose emotions run as quickly and as heatedly as his do.

Date: 2012-01-04 08:19 pm (UTC)
rordulum: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rordulum
If this book was continuing, I'd say that there was some sort of story in the offing. But, as it's ending, my guess is that she just doesn't like Julian very much.

Still, I could hope she plans to use him in Astonishing X-Men....

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Date: 2012-01-04 08:01 pm (UTC)
bradygirl_12: (batwoman (elegant))
From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
I heard that Marjorie started out writing fanfic. Major points for her there! I know fanfic gets a bad rap because there's so much that's bad out there, but that's the same for profic (including comics).

If you can start posting and build up a following that truly likes your work and isn't just saying, "OMG, you rock!" every single time they comment, you've got something.

Also, I've been a Black Widow fan for years. :)

EDIT: Actually, if someone wants to say that I rock I'm happy, but I'm talking about building up a readership. Also that sometimes you get some really good discussions. Don't want to diss commenters! All are welcome! :)
Edited Date: 2012-01-04 08:07 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-01-04 09:34 pm (UTC)
clutzycricket: (Default)
From: [personal profile] clutzycricket
True! There are a lot of really good fanfic writers who get published, possibly because it works as a free portfolio.* Then you just have to be able to push your stories. (For example, the Batgirl and Spoiler investigate a haunted house fic I did...)

*Really, really long list, some of which are surprising. I can think of ten writers off the top of my head, not including Liu. And I did no actually digging to discover this. (Well, about the fanfiction. Release dates, on the other hand...)

Date: 2012-01-05 12:31 am (UTC)
bradygirl_12: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
That's an excellent way of putting it, a free portfolio! I really get ticked off by people who don't consider fanfic 'real writing'. Don't get me started! :)

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Date: 2012-01-04 09:25 pm (UTC)
eyz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eyz
What do I have to say?

Mmmmh..let me see...
- Gorgeous Noto art! Loved it <3
His Laura and Jubes are so cute! And recognisable! And...and...
- Great portrayal of 'em both, great characterization all around
- Yay! For moaaar Jubes + Laura team-up!! <3

Also:
The "See ya in Avengers Academy once Marvel pulls the plug on this one"-thingie.

Date: 2012-01-05 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] runespoor
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how AWESOME this convo between Natasha and Laura is.

I didn't even know I wanted to read that.

Date: 2012-01-06 12:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] outlawpoet
It was pretty great, although I bristled a bit because the X-men have broken up slavery rings before.

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