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I have to credit BleedingCool.com for this.


I've touched on the Batman spoilers today, but they start off with the revelations about Diana and her people. It's a new low for DCnU.
It's a doozy and may not sit well with most of you. Heck, the new S_D protocols may even be triggered.

Fair warning, SPOILERS AHOY.



Shouldn't we have a tag for "everything you thought you knew was wrong."?

From the article:

"Paradise Island, has always been portrayed as a preserve of women, with new generations emerging… in an non-specific fashion. Formed from clay, or girls lost at sea transported to the island. The new Wonder Woman does away with any such niceties. The women of Paradise Island now set off on the seas looking for other ships, for seamen… or rather, semen. They have sex with the sailors, and then kill them. The sex may have been consensual, but what happened after certainly issn’t. Later, those that have conceived children give birth, the female children staying, the male children… becoming hellish slaves of the infernal weaponry workshop."


"It’s a nightmarish vision made real by Brian Azzarello and Cliff Chiang, the harshness of the stories of the Gods now made flesh in a much less palatable way. And given light to the thought that somewhere, working at a lithe, forging a mighty sword, unaware of his lineage, is Wonder Woman’s brother…
"


I guess Donna is going to have a say about this other brother, and I am not too fond of this darker, seedy Paradise Island. It honestly sounds like a brothel/labor camp of the gods than an ideal community led by women, made of women, for the women.

Date: 2012-03-21 09:54 pm (UTC)
valtyr: (Peej no thanks)
From: [personal profile] valtyr
At least here the Amazons gave the males to someone who would take care of them.

"becoming hellish slaves of the infernal weaponry workshop"?

It's still pretty bad.

Date: 2012-03-21 10:02 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Yeah, that's not what I'd consider "take care of" means.

Date: 2012-03-21 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I got the feeling that what we see at the end gives a bit of a question mark to whether they're truly slaves or not.

Date: 2012-03-21 10:20 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
yeah, again. planting seeds that will later sprout. when dealing with gods, i have learned not to take things at face value. its not just what's told, but what we see and what we learn as the story progresses

Date: 2012-03-21 11:15 pm (UTC)
akodo_rokku: (Default)
From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
Yeah having read the comic in question, that line is completely false. Hephaestus takes the boys in because the Amazons used to just toss them into the ocean -- like his mother did to him. He loves them and they're happy there, where they're artists instead of corpses.

I know a lot about this run has bugged long-time Wondy fans, but I've gotta say, it's by far the most interesting the book and character have been since Rucka.

Date: 2012-03-21 11:18 pm (UTC)
valtyr: (emma and namor)
From: [personal profile] valtyr
So the Amazons do try and murder their sons, it just doesn't work out?

Date: 2012-03-21 11:39 pm (UTC)
akodo_rokku: (Default)
From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
They used to, then Hephaestus started offering them weapons in trade for the boys.

Date: 2012-03-21 11:44 pm (UTC)
valtyr: (Jen she-hulk chinhand)
From: [personal profile] valtyr
So at first they murdered their sons, and then when they got offered stuff, they went for selling them into slavery.

I mean, I'm glad Hephaestus is good to the kids, but the Amazons are presented in a light just about as dark as the myths, which is the point at issue in this thread.

I'm also not terribly impressed at the idea that thank goodness, there's a man handy to save the poor boys those terrible women were murdering.

Date: 2012-03-22 03:45 am (UTC)
philippos42: zat's bunny (comedy)
From: [personal profile] philippos42
Well, I for one kind of like the subversiveness of a male nurturer saving kids from evil Amazons, and DC should be able to do its own version of Deadface or Tales from Myth if they want.

And the Marston estate should be able to take Wondy away from them, too. ;)

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