FF #2 & #3

[arbre_rieur]

Issue #2:

The replacement FF are awaiting the arrival back home of the Richards family from their trip across space-time. They're scheduled to get back -- to materialize through the wormhole in the sky -- any second now.







Issue #3:

Comments

[donnblake]

Love the panels with the kids climbing on Darla. That really is the way kids behave.

[randyripoff]

Small children, yes, but chronologically, if Alex Power is currently 19, then Artie and Leech should be mid to late teens, which makes that just a little...odd.

Of course, I'm sure everyone forgets how old these kids should be, so...

[mrstatham]

I figure Artie and Leech are basically stuck in the same kind of age-loop/their age is as the story requires kind-of setup as Franklin and Val, really. Here, they basically look the same age they were in the 90's.

[randyripoff]

Yeah, I understand that, but they should be much older--heck, I think they were older in Generation X.

[salinea]

But now they live with Franklin Richards and that fucks anyone's sense of time/aging. I mean, even more than the marvel u standard.

[wizardru]

This is comics...you need to sort of ignore that aspect. Marvel stopped living in a time zone where their characters actually aged relatively close to reality back in the early 1970s.

Consider:

Spiderman teamed up with crew from Saturday Night Live...THE ORIGINAL CAST. During which he mentioned how how attractive then 30-year old Mia Farrow was.

The Fantastic Four were forced out of Latveria by order of the Secretary of State: HENRY KISSINGER. (I actually posted that one here).

The alternate future of Days of Future Past, with adult Kitty Pryde? That was 2013. NOW.

Spiderman graduated High School in 1965. Johnny Storm graduated High School in 1966.

Tony Stark was kidnapped in Vietnam during the Vietnam War.

Characters in the MU have celebrated Christmas A LOT.

...and so on.

I mean, the problem with noting that the kids age at what JMS refers to as 'the speed of plot' is that it's a house of cards. If you note one inconsistency, you can't ignore the dozens of others. DC's solution to this problem has been multiple reboots of their continuity. Marvel's solution has been to just ignore it and pretends that time is elastic...that is to say that the origin of the MU is always about 5-7 years in the past.

It's better for your sanity not to think about it too much.

[meevees]

I love reading my digital comics on my kindle, but that second to last page is a really good example of how sometimes it just works better on the full page

Loving this book so far though! I thought the Darla and Scott interactions in #3 were super cute, and I love the kids treating Darla like a jungle gym.

[bjornwilde]

I love that the Yancy Street Gang has adopted Ben's face and are essentially defending Ben and the F4's honor here. It's misguided since Ben and the F4 chose these people as their stand-ins, but it's still cute.

[donnblake]

On the other hand, mocking and mailing elaborate pranks- that's exactly how the Yancy Street treats Ben.

[bjornwilde]

This is true. Does this mean they approve of her?

[espanolbot]

Can't really blame them, what with the amount of changes in teams and superhero names decide by other people in-verse in recent years.

[terrykun]

More and more, it really feels like without the Richards children, the rest of the kids are considered unimportant so far as stories go. This is such a massive letdown compared to Hickman work on the title. :(

[mrstatham]

I think it's a little unfair to compare it to Hickman's work because it doesn't particularly feel like Fraction has the same intention in writing his stories. Plus, this is still early days and Fraction needs to establish his new FF line-up. Hickman, after all, didn't just launch straight into a Future Foundation full of kids from the get-go.

[crinos]

I guess this makes Darla the official Thing now. She's been pranked by the Yancy Street Gang and everything.

[greenmask]

Dear wonderful Allreds.

[shadowpsykie]

So... what is her Story?

[crinos]

She-Thing you mean?

IIRC, each of the FF needed to pick someone to cover for them while they went on their space adventure. Johnny, being Johnny, picked a super model he had a date with, giving her an exoskeleton that Ben Grimm used during a period he had no powers so she could actually defend herself.

[shadowpsykie]

thought it was Ms. Thing,

eitehr way, it seems pretty.... odd that the other three would go along with it... not that i am not loving her... it just seems... weird....

[crinos]

Could be Ms. Thing, not entirely sure.

I like it too, but I am just wondering why Johnny didn't call Peter for this.

[shadowpsykie]

do you REALLY want OctoSpidey in this comic?

[silverhammerman]

I'd bear it if it meant getting Mike Allred to draw Spidey. Though it would definitely make it even harder to buy that no one realizes what's up with Spider-Ock.

[crinos]

Well, at the time the book was announced we didn't know about this superior Spider nonsense. And in universe Johnny doesn't know either.

[silverhammerman]

I'm not loving Miss Thing so far. I mean, first off I generally dislike viewpoint characters like this, who are new and unsure if they belong, but also I find it immensely weird that she's being treated as though she's totally qualified by everyone around her. There are tons of superheroes out there who could sub for Johnny, hell, Spidey did that for like a year just recently, so in-story it's kind of weird that everyone is okay with Johnny's random celebrity hookup being on the team. I suspect that the character is going to end up wallowing in obscurity for quite a while after Fraction leaves the title, because I think she's almost a too deliberately quirky and offbeat concept for many writers to really get behind.

[halloweenjack]

More likely that a new writer will "prove" that they're doing an allegedly edgier version of the FF by having Doom wear her skin or something.

[akodo_rokku]

My personal favorite thing is the clear MASSIVE crush the moloid kids have on She-Hulk.

"The Jennnnn....."

[raspberryrain]

Oh, I have to gush about the art here:
The naturalness of the hair, which actually looks like real (thick, relatively straight) hair interacting with gravity.
The way Jen's breasts move when she raises her arm.
The fun little eyebrow expressions.
Even Scott's feet as he's running down stairs.

So much of this is naturalistic in a way a lot of comic artists don't bother to do.

That said, I don't even know what's going on with Scott's antennae, but it's cute.

It's not realistic, it's still Pop Art whatever you call what Allred does, but it's good.

[akodo_rokku]

That's Mike Allred!

[wizardru]

Why have I not bought this?

I should buy this. It's really good.

[chrisdv]

God, Scott looks like a complete creep in that second panel from issue 3.

[team_mummy]

I love how Ant-Man is jumping all over the place like he's in a MAdman comic ;D

Dang it!

[capt_satellite]

I really wanted to hate this book : )