Have they change Starfire back to a version nearer her old pre-52? I only read the first few issues of this comic and what I took from that was that she could barely remember Dick?
Tameranians have a very moment-to-moment memory, especially for emotional relationships in Nu-52. Basically, as far as I understand it, their long-term memories don't really bother to store relationships that much, and they place a great cultural focus on living in the now. Not very nice for Kick-shippers, but interesting by itself, and a good mesh with Jason and Roy. Plus, I believe the implication is that if she spent some time around Dick she'd grow to remember him again, she had vague memories of Jason that I believe were implied to be based on Dick, so she remembers him enough to mistake him for another Robin. If I had to guess I'd say that as well as making the situation super-awkward for Jason at first (Always awesome), that was a pretty open flag to restart Dick and Kory whenever someone has a good idea for that.
Darn it Starfire! Put some clothes on in front of Damian! He's only a child for Rao's sake. Also, Batman doesn't consider Superman a friend, I guess Lobdell missed out on that one issue of Justice League where Batman called Superman his friend! Then again it is Lobdell, so why am I not surprised.
Preboot she seeme perfectly happy nude sunbathing in front of Animal Man's kids. Though his son was a creepy so and so and photographed her while she was asleep to show his friends...
"I'm never going to agree with your methods, but I can't argue with the results"
Umm, who the hell is that talking, because it sure as hell isn't Bruce Batman Wayne, aka "Mr Moral Absolute". Jason shoots people dead, that's pretty much what Batman is always about stopping people doing, unless they are police officers or the like.
It does seem like in their own book Todd's group are meant to be seen as rebels, but everyone seems unreasonably okay with their actions. To distracting levels.
Like the breakfast scene between Jason and Tim earlier in the series... I know that their past anamosity has been mostly wiped away, but considering Jason has tried at least twice to outright MURDER Tim, I find their "Hoho, we are so brotherly aren't we!" routine to be ringing somewhat false.
Whole thing just seems to be... slightly off. Like a cowboy cop who routinely beats confessions out of suspects but no one comments on the amount of laws they're breaking.
The fact that Jason can't even get disfigured properly is also a sticking point with me.
Wasn't the whole point of DotF having an anti-climax ending that they didn't want it to be "the story where X got blanked"? I'd say the villain doing it via a previously undiscovered trap in the epilogue still counts, DC.
And on that subject - REALLY? No-one thought to check Jason's helmet wasn't tampered with by the Joker, after they knew the Joker had taken it off him?
The art makes it look like, between everyone's reactions to Jason's face & the fact it's a big red mark on his face, that all the Joker did was give him a rash.
On hearing this news, Damian went to check on his best swords, Tim checked his wings weren't superglued shut and Dick checked his underwear wasn't boobytrapped.
I think it's pretty funny how Bruce is cradling Jason in that last shot. Like, Jason is a grown ass man now, but Bruce is still scooping him up the same way he did when Jason was just a teenager. Also, for a dude who apparently just got a snoot full of acid, Jason looks pretty okay. Like, he looks like maybe he got some hot water splashed on his face or something, but he hardly looks gruesomely disfigured.
I'm trying to figure out what 'old wounds' Dick is talking about. What, the five minutes he was with whatshername that The Joker killed, as opposed to the presumably-longer time he was with Kory? Of course, 'partial reboot', we no longer know how long he and Kory were together or if it was anything like it was 'before' since there was no 'before' before. Or something like that. Stupid Nu52.
More general than that I think, the Joker targetted Dick through the people he knew Nightwing cared about, including his entire circus, so being near someone he's been close to, and broken up with under possibly unhappy circumstances is the LAST thing he feels he needs.
BLAH. Super yay and nay issue as always ("otherwise perfect chest"? really?).... and idk, I was really distressed about the whole 'losing his face' thing when I heard about it, but as this looks like sunburn it's not having a great deal of impact on me.
I'm seriously done reading Batman until someone that can FIRE ENERGY OUT OF THEIR FUCKING EYES/HANDS/WHATEVER kills the Joker. Seriously. It is such a heinous logical oversight that no amount of blubbering fanboyism can justify it.
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Date: 2013-02-21 08:46 pm (UTC)Not very nice for Kick-shippers, but interesting by itself, and a good mesh with Jason and Roy. Plus, I believe the implication is that if she spent some time around Dick she'd grow to remember him again, she had vague memories of Jason that I believe were implied to be based on Dick, so she remembers him enough to mistake him for another Robin.
If I had to guess I'd say that as well as making the situation super-awkward for Jason at first (Always awesome), that was a pretty open flag to restart Dick and Kory whenever someone has a good idea for that.
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Date: 2013-02-22 03:33 am (UTC)The thing is, even with the changes, this is still better than the shit they were doing with her Pre-52. At least IMO.
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Date: 2013-02-22 03:42 am (UTC)If he didn't start puberty before, he sure as hell did when he saw her. :D
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Date: 2013-02-21 08:56 pm (UTC)Umm, who the hell is that talking, because it sure as hell isn't Bruce Batman Wayne, aka "Mr Moral Absolute". Jason shoots people dead, that's pretty much what Batman is always about stopping people doing, unless they are police officers or the like.
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Date: 2013-02-21 10:23 pm (UTC)Like the breakfast scene between Jason and Tim earlier in the series... I know that their past anamosity has been mostly wiped away, but considering Jason has tried at least twice to outright MURDER Tim, I find their "Hoho, we are so brotherly aren't we!" routine to be ringing somewhat false.
Whole thing just seems to be... slightly off. Like a cowboy cop who routinely beats confessions out of suspects but no one comments on the amount of laws they're breaking.
The fact that Jason can't even get disfigured properly is also a sticking point with me.
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Date: 2013-02-21 09:06 pm (UTC)And on that subject - REALLY? No-one thought to check Jason's helmet wasn't tampered with by the Joker, after they knew the Joker had taken it off him?
The art makes it look like, between everyone's reactions to Jason's face & the fact it's a big red mark on his face, that all the Joker did was give him a rash.
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Date: 2013-02-21 09:23 pm (UTC)Also, for a dude who apparently just got a snoot full of acid, Jason looks pretty okay. Like, he looks like maybe he got some hot water splashed on his face or something, but he hardly looks gruesomely disfigured.
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Date: 2013-02-21 10:21 pm (UTC)Why no one in the shot isn't trying to rinse it off his face is more of a question.
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Date: 2013-02-22 02:45 am (UTC)"Oh puh-lease. You call *that* acid scarring? Suck it up, ya big baby. Dent out."
*Strides out like a boss*
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Date: 2013-02-22 08:41 am (UTC)Oh SHUT UP, Bruce. Sheesh.
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