Okay, so the timeline for this comic is really confusing me. Damian appears to be somewhere in his early twenties, which would imply that at most this is happening about fifteen years in the future. Assuming that Bruce is around forty currently, he should be about sixty-five or so. This age fits in relatively well with his appearance, though not entirely with the claim that he is in superior condition for his age. He looks much older than his sixtyish counterpart in the DCAU, at any rate.
So my question is: does Alfred age at all? I'm not super familiar with the DCnU timeline, but I would generally place Alfred's age at thirty or forty when he became Bruce's guardian. Assuming that he was thirty and Bruce was ten at that time (he was eight, I know, but I'm rounding off), then fifty-years have passed since that time, making him at least eighty-five. And yet he looks the same as he usually does. I'm just saying: if anyone's "superior condition" is going to be praised, I vote for Alfred's.
I mean, we get a lot of "Gotham is fundamentally evil and broken on a mystical level," comments, I think it would be nice to see the other side of that.
Poor alternate universes Dick Grayson can't seem to catch a break with dying in unusual ways. So he can be the cataclysm of Bruce disowning Damian and them fighting each other.
...Is it too early to proclaim this as the next Batman: Odyssey? That's what I thought of while reading this--interesting ideas, but just...written really, REALLY weirdly.
Yeeeaaahhh, sorry, I don't believe for a goddamn second that Bruce would EVER say to one of his sons that he's ashamed and disgusted with them. Would he be incredibly angry and upset that Damian is using the Batman symbol to kill? Of course he fucking would. But this is his SON, and he'd try to help Damian, not beat the shit out of him.
Hell, Jason was a murdering drug lord in Under The Red Hood and all Batman wanted to do is help him. Even after Jason was written off the rails into near-total villainy Batman never disowned him, and only beat the crap out of him when he really had no choice.
And secondly, this is supposed to be Damian Crossing The Line, but come on. He's having the shit beat out of him, of course he's going to blindly grab an object and strike with it, that's basic fighting 101. The bigger question is why Bruce didn't see it coming.
And secondly, this is supposed to be Damian Crossing The Line, but come on. He's having the shit beat out of him, of course he's going to blindly grab an object and strike with it, that's basic fighting 101.
At this point I'd like the Monitors or Anti-monitors, or whoever is currently dicking around with reality, to pop into this reality or that Injustice reality and snatch up an unwanted Damien and dump him on "My BIOLOGICAL SON Is Dead!!!" Batman. "Hey, dude, you wanted your son back no matter what? HERE! Take him!" They can then dump the unwanted adopted family members of the Bat-family on "My ADOPTED SON is Dead" Batman from the Injustice Universe.
That's if they don't end up taking one of those Damien clones and telling Batman that this is the real Damien and Talia killed a clone to mess with his head.
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Date: 2013-11-28 03:45 am (UTC)So my question is: does Alfred age at all? I'm not super familiar with the DCnU timeline, but I would generally place Alfred's age at thirty or forty when he became Bruce's guardian. Assuming that he was thirty and Bruce was ten at that time (he was eight, I know, but I'm rounding off), then fifty-years have passed since that time, making him at least eighty-five. And yet he looks the same as he usually does. I'm just saying: if anyone's "superior condition" is going to be praised, I vote for Alfred's.
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Date: 2013-11-29 06:47 am (UTC)Hell, Jason was a murdering drug lord in Under The Red Hood and all Batman wanted to do is help him. Even after Jason was written off the rails into near-total villainy Batman never disowned him, and only beat the crap out of him when he really had no choice.
And secondly, this is supposed to be Damian Crossing The Line, but come on. He's having the shit beat out of him, of course he's going to blindly grab an object and strike with it, that's basic fighting 101. The bigger question is why Bruce didn't see it coming.
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Date: 2013-12-01 01:17 pm (UTC)THANK. YOU.
What happened to all the Damien clones anyway? Give them away like free puppies?
Date: 2013-11-29 11:09 pm (UTC)That's if they don't end up taking one of those Damien clones and telling Batman that this is the real Damien and Talia killed a clone to mess with his head.