Covers for Batgirl #30 and Nightwing #30

[flint_marko]

From Newsarama:



BATGIRL #30
Written by GAIL SIMONE
Art by FERNANDO PASARIN and JONATHAN GLAPION
Cover by ALEX GARNER
1:25 MAD Variant cover
On sale APRIL 9 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T
Retailers: This issue will ship with two covers. Please see the order form for more information.
An ordinary day takes a turn for the worse when Barbara Gordon must find a way to save her roommate Alysia Yeoh from fan-favorite villain Ragdoll!



NIGHTWING #30
Written by JAMES TYNION IV
Art by MEGHAN HETRICK
Cover by EDDY BARROWS
1:25 MAD Variant cover
On sale APRIL 9 • 40 pg, FC, $3.99 US • RATED T • FINAL ISSUE
Retailers: This issue will ship with two covers. Please see the order form for more information.
The Bat Family is forced to face the brutal aftermath of FOREVER EVIL, but after everything they’ve been through, can they stand together?

Comments

[protogarrett]

DC Editor: Who hasn't been killed yet?

Writer: Nightwing?

DC Editor: Done! And then we'll bring him back after a year. We wouldn't want the death to have long lasting impact or anything otherwise how would we return to status quo?

...Honestly, I do wish that if a character was going to be killed they have it last for a decade or so so it has real gravity when they bring the character back.

[q99]

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...Honestly, I do wish that if a character was going to be killed they have it last for a decade or so so it has real gravity when they bring the character back.-

*I* wish they would do stories where someone got taken out of action for a 5-10 year period, then when they got back it'd have about as much impact, but without even having to get into the plot device that is resurrections!

But barring that, yea, actually keep 'em dead for awhile.

[darkknightjrk]

I doubt he's actually dead. I can imagine him being severely injured, but still around. Perhaps he'll be training the mohawked woman in the Nightwing-esque costume that we saw when they announced that Batman will be doing a flash-forward issue?

[insolent_one]

RAGDOLL'S BACK!

[psylynce]

Double yay! I hope he's as crazy and demented as ever. I'm going to cross my fingers for Scandal next, or maybe Cat Man. Tough call.

[shadowpsykie]

got rid of those ages ago, nasty little bits...

[mastermahan]

I am made of joy!

[superfangirl1]

Yea Ragdoll and hope Catman makes a comeback also.

[drexer]

Last year the New52 universe lost Hope.

This year it loses its prime derrière?

Once that happens, what's left?

[crinos]

The copper pipes and wiring in the walls of the DC office?

[icon_uk]

Well, they're moving to California soon, they can take those out as they leave.

[zapbiffpow]

That Nightwing cover looks great! But, holy crap, FINAL ISSUE?

Wh-where will I turn to to read Dick and Tim?

[star_of_airdrie]

Tim is a main character of the weekly Batman Eternal

Dick will continue to star in my dreams...

[sadoeuphemist]

That Nightwing cover just looks so much more like a Batwoman cover.

[insectposse]

I thought the same thing.

[alex_sc]

What if (and bare with me here) Dick gets injured and becomes the NU52 Oracle?

and maybe work with the little girl in the Batman titles (her name escaped my mind) as the new Nightwing?

[drexer]

Then that would be the most insulting thing possible, no?

The role of Oracle was defined by Barbara Gordon's abilities, not by her disabilities, and defining such a name by the injuries of someone is pretty insulting. She was Oracle because she was the best hacker in the DC Universe, and with her super-heroing around as batgirl she is hardly making a drop sized dent next to the river of impact she had before on the fight against crime.

Not that it would be a first, just recently we saw the same with Selina Kile in Flashpoint's Batman and it was as insulting there as it would be here.

Stealing a fully fledged character's identity and attributing to another one due to a common or similar disabilitie is one of the most common and insulting examples of ableism. I would prefer they killed Dick Grayson off instead of doing that.

[icon_uk]

I'm unmoved by this due to my advanced cynicism.

My guess is that we're going to a new group title replacing Nightwing and possibly Teen Titans. We've heard that Dick is persona non grata to most of the world because they'll see him fight beside Owlman, and assume he'd gone to the bad.

So he goes underground and forms a new team who know him and trust him of old, but who might no longer currently be heroes (If one were named Donna, and another were named Wally, I could live with that) to operate out of the shadows.

As for a name, "The Outsiders" would seem like a decent choice

[flint_marko]

We've heard that Dick is persona non grata to most of the world because they'll see him fight beside Owlman, and assume he'd gone to the bad.

Where did they say that?

[icon_uk]

Well, I thought it was a post "Forever Evil" interview on one of the newspages., but after doinng some googling, it appears it was a post that originated at /co/ by someone claiming to be a DC insider (veracity unconfirmed), who implied that (And this is more than I recalled)

There will be three new Justice League titles launching in April. The already announced JUSTICE LEAGUE CANADA will replace JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA thru August as a result of events in FOREVER EVIL. The others will spin out of FOREVER EVIL as well:

>OUTLAW JUSTICE. In this modern day western adventure series, superheroes have been outlawed in post-FOREVER EVIL America and the most wanted man in the country is Dick Grayson. He will lead an underground band of heroes operating behind enemy lines, hunted by both sides.

>YOUNG JUSTICE will focus on the lives and loves of the next generation of superheroes. This series will include THE NEW 52 debut of heroes like: Aqualad and Miss Martian.

The first is happening, the third seems like a logical extension of the recently announced cancellation of Teen Titans, and the second seems to be plausible.

How accurate the last two are remains to be seen of course, but I can well imagine Dick's path heading in that direction (Since there's already a team called "The Outlaws" I thought Outsiders would work better.)

[junipepper]

Well, I can live with any outcome where Dick is not actually dead, but I'm going to be seriously pissed if the Bat clan doesn't stand by him. And I really don't think we need a replacement Nightwing -- hoping that's not in the cards. But Alive!Dick -- I'll take that. The underground hero idea has potential.

[naebler]

So... weird question. How the hell does the Bat family keep all their teeth? I mean violent vigilantes that see more head damage than a Hockey Goon... really I want to know.

[majingojira]

The Bruce Wayne Dental Plan (Lisa needs Braces) is quite simply the best in the nation.

[naebler]

But wouldn't people notice all the dental work?

[icon_uk]

He has a very "hands on" approach

[icon_uk]

Same way they deal with the fact that they usually have more broken ribs than the weekly garbage skip of an all-you-can-eat buffet, and more pulled muscles than an entire national gymnastic squad over a ten year period.

[kurenai_tenka]

Lol, so Jason is the only Robin with a book now? That's... novel.

I shall withhold further grumpy comments about what's going on with Nightwing in general. The cover is nice, at least.

[chrisdv]

So, with Higgins leaving Nightwing with issue 29 & the series ending the next month anyway, I'm guessing he quit the book because he's not happy with editorial constantly interfering instead of letting him do his job.

[ablackraptor]

Probably, he wouldn't be the first one to do so.

[icon_uk]

Seems unlikely since, along with an Image title upcoming, he has a new DC project being announced soon.

[ablackraptor]

So, going by the solicits, Forever Evil won't end until March/April time? Super, I have to wait three months to find out if he's making it out alive or not.

Funny observation though. DC are teasing they're killing off Nightwing, one of my absolute favourite DC characters, but confirmed they're bringing both Steph and Wally back, both who're also in my list of absolute favourite DC characters.
Meanwhile, over in Marvel, they're teasing that they're killing off Mockingbird, one of my absolute favourite Marvel characters (who has more than a few similarities to Nightwing), but they're also bringing back Nightcrawler and Spider-Man, two of my favourite Marvel characters.
Its like both companies are taking away something I love, but giving me something back to take the sting off of it.

It does not work at all.

[icon_uk]

Mockingbird? Really? They only brought her back from the dead a couple of years ago with the whole "It was a Skrull who died" thing.

[ablackraptor]

Yep, over in Secret Avengers; I've been meaning to post what happened so far but keep forgetting. The solicits announce that in the next issue someone dies, and she's the only team member who doesn't either have their own comic elsewhere or is solicited to be on the team after it gets relaunched, so she's pretty much the only possible choice (plus, the storyline is called 'How to Maim a Mockingbird', and she's spent the last few issues having her mind messed with by AIM, so her chances look REALLY bad).
They also killed Taskmaster a few issues ago, which also bums me out since him and Bobbi were pretty much the main reasons I was following this book. If Bobbi does bite it, I'm probably dropping it from my pull list.

[grazzt]

Why are you so terrified, Babs? Ragdoll just wants hugs! He wanted them so much, he forgot to put down the knife he had been using for totally non-nefarious purposes.