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While I have not seen the X-Men: Day of Future Past move yet, at least one plot point sounds very familiar to a plot point involved in a different "X-Men/Time Travel" story. Minor DOFP spoilers after the cut.

X-MEN #41 (Vol 2) was LegionQuest, the prologue to Age of Apocalypse.



In DOFP, as a result of time travel, the world become aware of the "mutant menace" decades earlier than they "should" have. Something similar happens in "LegionQuest," the prologue to "Age of Apocalypse."

X-Men #41 - Page 10

All right, the Legion/Magneto fight causes Apocalypse to act earlier than he did in the main timeline. This is even fixed in X-MEN OMEGA, where there is no massive televised fight so almost everything is as it was. This massive battle is more of a catalyst than "just" Legion accidentally killing Charles Xavier.

Date: 2014-05-26 09:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Have to say, never quite saw why ten years would have made such a difference, and recalling that Apocalypse's first idea of a top notch team to advance his cause was the Alliance of Evil, consisting of luminaries like Tower (grows big), Stinger (throws lightning), Frenzy (strong) and Time Shadow (vague defined timeshifting powers) it never quite fitted with all his retconned in bad-ass-itude,

Date: 2014-05-26 10:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] burkeonthesly
Maybe it was the genocidal maniac equivalent of a warm-up stretch?

Date: 2014-05-27 10:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Oh that's not an urban legend, that's true. Still means he's stuck with that as his debut.

Date: 2014-05-26 11:12 pm (UTC)
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Wasn't it more like 13-14 or years early since David was never born as a result of wipingout Charles and he was a teenager IIRC.

I'd think it was the exposing of mutants earlier that did more damage than Apocalypse. There was no force in place to argue the mutants side of thing so humans probably cracked down much harder on mutants and as a result hordes of mutants probably rushed to ally with Apocalypse giving him a much bigger power base to attack with.

The Avengers and even the FF4 wouldn't have gained their abilities yet so in a lot of ways the time travel woke old Pocket Lips up early enough that he got a free pass to get a foot hold.

Date: 2014-05-27 10:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Well, Poccy mentions over a decade so I was rounding.

Date: 2014-05-27 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] paradoxrealm
I always loved the AoA series. Best thing Marvel did in the last 20 years.

I've looked at my copy of LegonQuest. The 4 X-Men who follow Legion back specifically state that they have gone back 20 years into the past.
It's implied that this is not long before Legion's conception by Gabrielle Haller, so that would make him 19 at best.

Apocalypse suggests Sinister predicted mutants would become prevalent over a decade later, which would imply he means less than 15 years earlier otherwise he'd round it more, so Icon's thought on around 13 years before supers and mutants as a general concept seems about right.

Date: 2014-05-27 06:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] obsidianwolf
Which of course is all dependent on Sinister being honest with his boss. Something he's got a habbit of not doing.

Of course now I"m thinking of all the retconned in activity in this time period that came after the AoA event. I Mean was this before or after the First line got killed off fighting the skrulls for example.

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