Date: 2015-02-20 02:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reveen
Pulling a "virtual paradise" where "people are content and life is easy" out of Naziism is quite the magic trick. Though I guess Overman Did It is as good an explanation as any.

Date: 2015-02-20 04:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
Its actually not. Most of the problems we have today are caused by the differences. If you kill everyone who doesn't look like you, think like you, and have sex like you 90% of your problems simply go away.

Date: 2015-02-20 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] captainbellman
Yes. For like, two seconds, tops.

Your statement is analogous to saying that removing all the dandelions in a garden will make it pretty forever. Inevitably, more dandelion seeds will blow in there and start growing.

Even if Hitler had won, that would not have stopped any more people from realising they were gay, or prevented any non-Aryan genes from being expressed.

To put it simply: "Life will, uh, find a way."

Date: 2015-02-20 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredneil.livejournal.com
Most problems we have today are caused by economic reasons, and saying "it's the fault of those people who don't look like you, think like you, or have sex like you" is a way for people to deal with those problems or to distract them from those problems. If you kill everyone who's different, you'll just need to find more differences.

Date: 2015-02-20 04:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reveen
Two problems with that.

1. Kill everyone how? The Nazis managed to decimate some highly marginalized minority groups in one general region of the world, when they had all the advantages to do so at their leisure. Do you really think they will be able to repeat the process with the hundreds of ethnic groups still present that they would have a hate-boner for? The Nazis were well on their way to generations of brutal guerrilla warfare with the slavic peoples in their Lebensraum plans. Not even getting into the multiple continents worth of other "inferior" groups for them to try and fail to kill or enslave.

2. Assuming Naziism doesn't mellow out or become more pragmatic, they would always find some other group to hate. The Aryan superman is an impossible standard that will always morph to accommodate more inferiors.
Edited Date: 2015-02-20 05:02 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-02-20 07:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
-1. Kill everyone how?-

Really. In order for these all-too-common 'Nazi victory' scenarios to happen, what they need is to be *handed* an advantage so big that any small country could conquer the world with the same advantage.

One thing I like about the comic Uber- Nazis get superhumans. It merely buys time and makes thing bloodier.

-2. Assuming Naziism doesn't mellow out or become more pragmatic, they would always find some other group to hate. The Aryan superman is an impossible standard that will always morph to accommodate more inferiors.-


Yes, it was fueled by scapegoats.

Date: 2015-02-21 06:35 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
1. Superman, or well, his nazi equivalent.

Date: 2015-02-20 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] sanctaphrax
Nonsense. Nazi-like regimes are horrible even to the dominant class.

You really can't slaughter your way to a better world. Every attempt ever made has failed, and that's not just a coincidence.

Date: 2015-02-20 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] sanctaphrax
I wouldn't take a Nazi news report at face value if I were you. Most likely the world is a "virtual paradise" only in the eyes of the propagandists and their victims.

I haven't read the story, though. So maybe I'm wrong.

Date: 2015-02-20 08:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Indeed, in fact the family pictured watching at home, mother, father (with pipe), two adorable kids and a puppy are a little TOO... Ozzie and Harriet.

I bet it is a virtual paradise....

Date: 2015-02-21 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] 7dialsmystery
...to the ruling class. Everyone else, except for the privileged few cronies of the Furer, it's probably pretty sh*tty.

Date: 2015-02-21 12:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] junipepper
There's a bit of meta-irony going on; the reader is meant to take the newscaster's characterization of things with a grain of salt.

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