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Telos tried his best to contain Deimos, instead of killing him. But Hal jordan parallax kills Deimos anyway. While he is distracted in battle.





Date: 2015-05-23 03:20 am (UTC)
lucean: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lucean
I feel the need to ask, even though I am fairly certain I know the answer, has Wally West been seen in the actual main Convergence storyline? I keep holding hope that DC will finally give Wally West a dignified sacrifice as an exit, but they seem to be insistant that he not get one moment of glory in any form.

Date: 2015-05-23 03:24 am (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: Charlie Crews vs. Faucet (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
So... All of reality is going to collapse in on itself because HAL JORDAN IS AN IDIOT. Just checking.

Date: 2015-05-23 03:53 am (UTC)
simiansyndicate: (Default)
From: [personal profile] simiansyndicate
Thus the status quo is maintained!

...actually, if convergence ends with the Nu52 Hal replaced by Parallax Hal and THAT'S why he's on the run, I could dig the hell out of that.

So....

Date: 2015-05-23 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] 7dialsmystery
...business as usual?

Date: 2015-05-23 03:55 am (UTC)
beyondthefringe: (Default)
From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
If it's not Barry, it's Hal. If it's not Hal, it's Barry.

You never see -Superman- accidentally destroying all of creation.

Date: 2015-05-23 03:59 am (UTC)
thatnickguy: Oreo-lovin' Martian (Default)
From: [personal profile] thatnickguy
Wellllllll....there was Superboy Prime. Does that count?

Date: 2015-05-23 04:27 am (UTC)
beyondthefringe: (Default)
From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
Dammit.

Date: 2015-05-23 05:41 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] drtechnobabel
Yeah, but IIRC, it wasn't an accident in his case. The new reality just didn't turn out the way he wanted it to.
Edited Date: 2015-05-23 05:42 am (UTC)

Date: 2015-05-23 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
Must be tuesday

Date: 2015-05-23 03:54 am (UTC)
beyondthefringe: (Default)
From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
Oh, this series. You don't know how much I wanted to like this series. I had such high hopes for it. A chance to revisit DC's many-splendored past, to check in on forgotten friends and rebooted timelines. An opportunity for creators to return to old titles and give one last hurrah to bygone eras.

And what do we get? A mess. A chaotic, muddled, inconsistent mess that proves someone at DC just doesn't understand the concept of joy and happiness and satisfying readers.

The main series is such a whiplash-inducing trainwreck. It's about a sentient planet forcing doomed timelines to battle each other to the death! No, it's about Brainiac trying to escape! No, it's about an obscure Warlord villain trying to take over all of reality. (Everyone who didn't read Warlord: Who the fuck is Deimos?) No, it's about reality falling to pieces all of a sudden!

The New 52 doesn't even make an appearance until 6 issues in, at which point we all wonder where the fuck this fits into continuity: the characters from Threshold are there for no reason, even though they're either dead or missing. The Red Lanterns are there, even though they're mostly dead also. Stormwatch is there and I don't even know what their deal is anymore. Telos inserts itself into New 52 continuity, pulls out, inserts itself again and then reality explodes. Is this a sex thing?

The domed cities concept was flawed from the first second. We're not getting the characters and settings we remember, we're getting a hodgepodge of characters stuffed into a dome through contrived circumstances, then set to simmer for a -year- under extremely unusual circumstances. A year spent powerless and trapped, which they'd never have experienced normally. Sure, there's some change for the better, and a lot for the worse, but in the end, they're removed from what we remember of them last, and it's not the same. In the end, we have a whole lot of characters stuck in Gotham or Metropolis when they had no reason to be there--Barry Allen just happens to be back from the future when trapped, Wally just happens to be visiting when trapped, and so on. Why? Because rules. Or maybe Brainiac wanted complete sets of superheroes.

So these battles. Do losing cities automatically die? Or is there a time limit? How many battles do some of them have to win? How many can you lose before it's all over? Why does it feel like some cities get to have multiple battles, while others get like, 1 champion? What about cities that don't even have champions?

And have we even seen all the ones that were kidnapped? Like Generations-era Metropolis? Or the world of Sugar and Spike, which was listed in the lineup of trapped cities in Convergence #0?

And honestly, what's the point of killing off Kandor, or Electropolis, or Stan Lee's Just Imagine? It's either pointless or mean-spirited, and does it all matter when the next/last issue comes out?

I like that we've seen some good stories and happy endings (happy...for the moment) and revisited old friends, but this was a ham-handed, clumsy, inconsistent, awful way to do it. I know we have one more week, but I'm not exactly holding my breath for a satisfying resolution that will have made this all worth it.

Date: 2015-05-23 04:01 am (UTC)
thatnickguy: Oreo-lovin' Martian (Default)
From: [personal profile] thatnickguy
Not to mention each of the individual 2-part stories have been incredibly formulaic. Show where the characters have been for the past year, do a bit of interactions, then boom fight!, and happy ending (I think, for most of them) to leave nostalgic characters on a high note.

Date: 2015-05-23 04:26 am (UTC)
beyondthefringe: (Default)
From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
The first month of stories felt like all buildup and foreplay, yeah. Another frustrating aspect of this. Very few deviations as far as I could tell.

And then in the second month, their endings all seemed to depend on where they were in the main storyline... so some losers get blown up, some just go home, some get to join in the big fighty-fight... so some of these 2-parters don't even -get- a proper ending, just a "See you in Convergence 6!" or something.

And the worst part is, there's no way of knowing which, if any, stories are important to the big storyline and which are almost self-contained.

Date: 2015-05-23 04:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] althechi
I guess this is what happens when you bung together a massive company-wide crossover just to smooth over a coast-to-coast move.

Date: 2015-05-23 05:55 am (UTC)
dark_tzitzimine: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dark_tzitzimine
Is even worse actually, Convergence 6 pretty much makes every tie-in irrelevant.

Date: 2015-05-23 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
I think the tie-ins were just an attempt to please fans

Date: 2015-05-23 08:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
This. DC might have told writers to 'go nuts and have fun', but they gave them an incredibly limited amount of space in which to do so, so that only a few writers - i.e. Rucka with The Question - have managed to put anything satisfactory together.

It's kind of like being told you can dine at the best restaurant for making your favourite meal... But then being told you've got twenty seconds to eat.

Date: 2015-05-24 02:53 am (UTC)
jekylls_salvation: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jekylls_salvation
Better than being told what to eat based on what's testing well with the kids.

Date: 2015-05-23 04:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] penguinzero
I'm pretty sure there's at least one or two cities listed in #0 that haven't been mentioned -- I know I was watching out for the unnamed Earth-C-Minus city the included there (because I'm kind of a Zoo Crew fanboy), but so far all we've heard of is Follywood from Earth-C. Not even any members of the Justa Lotta Animals, as far as I can tell.

And, of course, the ones that were included just to be quickly killed off were pretty much just there for the name drop anyway, so that's not a lot better.

Date: 2015-05-23 07:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lordultimus
You know, Telos could have at least told Hal "I'm going to contain him because if you kill him you'll destroy the universe."

Date: 2015-05-23 07:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sagrada
Surely you know by now that people being thoughtful and level-headed some of the time is BAD COMICS? Who cares about sense? Punch it all straight to Hell!

Date: 2015-05-23 08:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lordultimus
What's with Supergirl's chest symbol in the last panel?

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