Well, it's what Carol tells Kamala. I'm guessing it's far easier to sell his predictions if Kamala isn't seeing him a young man being exploited while he's suffering terribly from his visions.
wasn't this a plot point in the original Civil War, why Mr. Fantastic would even consider Pro-Reg? that he ran the numbers or built a machine to do it?
there may have been an interesting philosophical discussion on the notion of pre-crime here, but it's one that's been had already and I'm not seeing anyone bring anything new to the table.
Is this going to be the point where Kamala starts getting fucked over in her own book to serve an editorially demanded crossover?
That worries me, because it could be just growing pains all comics go through, or</> this could be a canary in the coal mine situation for how Marvel will be handling her character.
Couple of nitpicks: -- In Minority Report, they were arresting people and then charging and sentencing them for crimes they didn't commit, whereas here they're simply(?) "unofficially holding [someone] at this location for the next fifteen minutes"; still ethically dodgy, but nowhere near as scary as pre-crime. -- As I recall, the point of Minority Report wasn't that pre-crime couldn't work as a criminal justice system so much as it was that the system could be gamed, so it would still need thoughtful oversight to make sure it wasn't misused or misapplied. (Also, don't kill people who want to see their kids. And treat precogs like humans, not like your own squishy Deep Blue. Also, Max von Sydow is ALWAYS the villain. ALWAYS.)
Ulysses is getting spread so thin he's practically just a coffee stain on the pavement. The Inhumans don't want Tony doing a couple of check-ups on him to see how his powers work, but they're fine with everyone and their grandmother using his abilities 24/7 until he dies of exhaustion?
"Okay, one of my predictions--and I don't know which one--is going to lead to a global disaster in the next hour and twenty minutes, unless... I get a glass of lemonade and a week on Maui beach."
How messed up is it that Tony Stark -- the guy who friggin' kidnapped and ran invasive tests on him -- is the only one who actually seems concerned about Ulysses as a human being and not as a pre-crime detection system?
I know, right? If he's not being held under heavy protection in the Triskelion, where just about anyone can drop in to see him anyway, either authorized or sneaking through), he's being loaned out to Spider-Man and Parker Industries, or the Inhumans, or Captain Marvel's program... dude never seems to get any downtime. If he's not predicting end of the world shit, he's apparently predicting street-level crime and super-villain attacks.
This would have worked better if he was a future-predicting computer. Or maybe an alien robot that can see the future. Like some sort of recording device that saw all of space and time. A... Recorder, if you will. But no, that's crazy talk, Marvel didn't just introduce that exact same concept within the past few months or anything... (Deadpool and the Mercs for Money limited series.)
I've only been a reading a few of the scans posted here, but I'm already sick of seeing Ulysses' dumb face. I hope he turns out to be evil and then dies so I never have to see him again.
For another story of someone affected by the partition of Pakistan and India, see "Seeds for Change" by Marly Cornell, the biography of Surinder and Edda Sehgal (founders of the Sehgal Foundation.)
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Date: 2016-07-22 08:22 am (UTC)So this say he dont actualy see the future?
This is a mess.
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Date: 2016-07-22 10:32 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-07-22 11:24 am (UTC)there may have been an interesting philosophical discussion on the notion of pre-crime here, but it's one that's been had already and I'm not seeing anyone bring anything new to the table.
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Date: 2016-07-22 12:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-07-22 11:41 am (UTC)That worries me, because it could be just growing pains all comics go through, or</> this could be a canary in the coal mine situation for how Marvel will be handling her character.
She made it through Secret Wars intact, I like to imagine she'll be fine
Date: 2016-07-23 02:23 pm (UTC)EDIT: Never mind, superboyprime posted four pages from #9 and I do not see Ms. Marvel's reputation "Big M" in Jersey City surviving this.
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Date: 2016-07-22 02:20 pm (UTC)DID NO ONE ON TEAM CAROL EVER SEE MINORITY REPORT JESUS TAP-DANCING CHRIST, PEOPLE!
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Date: 2016-07-22 02:26 pm (UTC)Right?
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Date: 2016-07-22 03:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-07-22 04:13 pm (UTC)-- In Minority Report, they were arresting people and then charging and sentencing them for crimes they didn't commit, whereas here they're simply(?) "unofficially holding [someone] at this location for the next fifteen minutes"; still ethically dodgy, but nowhere near as scary as pre-crime.
-- As I recall, the point of Minority Report wasn't that pre-crime couldn't work as a criminal justice system so much as it was that the system could be gamed, so it would still need thoughtful oversight to make sure it wasn't misused or misapplied. (Also, don't kill people who want to see their kids. And treat precogs like humans, not like your own squishy Deep Blue. Also, Max von Sydow is ALWAYS the villain. ALWAYS.)
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Date: 2016-07-23 06:05 am (UTC)"Hawkeye! Stop doing that!"
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Date: 2016-07-22 07:14 pm (UTC)This would have worked better if he was a future-predicting computer. Or maybe an alien robot that can see the future. Like some sort of recording device that saw all of space and time. A... Recorder, if you will. But no, that's crazy talk, Marvel didn't just introduce that exact same concept within the past few months or anything... (Deadpool and the Mercs for Money limited series.)
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Date: 2016-07-23 10:36 pm (UTC)http://www.skjam.com/2015/11/13/book-review-seeds-for-change/