Date: 2016-07-22 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hybrid2
Mathematics?
So this say he dont actualy see the future?

This is a mess.

Date: 2016-07-22 10:32 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] malitia
Well, it's what Carol tells Kamala. I'm guessing it's far easier to sell his predictions if Kamala isn't seeing him a young man being exploited while he's suffering terribly from his visions.

Date: 2016-07-22 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] xakko
wasn't this a plot point in the original Civil War, why Mr. Fantastic would even consider Pro-Reg? that he ran the numbers or built a machine to do it?

there may have been an interesting philosophical discussion on the notion of pre-crime here, but it's one that's been had already and I'm not seeing anyone bring anything new to the table.

Date: 2016-07-22 12:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dr_archeville
Yeah, Reed made a working version of Asimov's Psychoistory which told him the SHRA was the least worst option.

Date: 2016-07-22 11:41 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reveen
Is this going to be the point where Kamala starts getting fucked over in her own book to serve an editorially demanded crossover?

That worries me, because it could be just growing pains all comics go through, or</> this could be a canary in the coal mine situation for how Marvel will be handling her character.
From: [personal profile] chortles81
The preview for #9 though...

EDIT: Never mind, superboyprime posted four pages from #9 and I do not see Ms. Marvel's reputation "Big M" in Jersey City surviving this.
Edited Date: 2016-07-28 08:49 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-07-22 02:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] freezer
*ahem*

DID NO ONE ON TEAM CAROL EVER SEE MINORITY REPORT JESUS TAP-DANCING CHRIST, PEOPLE!

Date: 2016-07-22 02:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] miramira
No, no, it's okay! They've got one person who can see the future, not three! That means he has to be three times as accurate, right?

Right?

Date: 2016-07-22 02:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reveen
To be fair, in a Post-Scientology world I don't think someone as young as Kamala will be going out of her way to watch Tom Cruise movies.

Date: 2016-07-22 03:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] erikred
Oddly enough, you had me at Post-Scientology world. Please tell me their absence is post-Secret Wars canon.

Date: 2016-07-22 04:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] erikred
Couple of nitpicks:
-- In Minority Report, they were arresting people and then charging and sentencing them for crimes they didn't commit, whereas here they're simply(?) "unofficially holding [someone] at this location for the next fifteen minutes"; still ethically dodgy, but nowhere near as scary as pre-crime.
-- As I recall, the point of Minority Report wasn't that pre-crime couldn't work as a criminal justice system so much as it was that the system could be gamed, so it would still need thoughtful oversight to make sure it wasn't misused or misapplied. (Also, don't kill people who want to see their kids. And treat precogs like humans, not like your own squishy Deep Blue. Also, Max von Sydow is ALWAYS the villain. ALWAYS.)

Date: 2016-07-22 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] captainbellman
Ulysses is getting spread so thin he's practically just a coffee stain on the pavement. The Inhumans don't want Tony doing a couple of check-ups on him to see how his powers work, but they're fine with everyone and their grandmother using his abilities 24/7 until he dies of exhaustion?

Date: 2016-07-22 02:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] miramira
Or until he predicts himself causing some kind of disaster.

Date: 2016-07-22 03:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] burkeonthesly
"Okay, one of my predictions--and I don't know which one--is going to lead to a global disaster in the next hour and twenty minutes, unless... I get a glass of lemonade and a week on Maui beach."

Date: 2016-07-23 06:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
*SPROING* "Have an arrow to the eye instead!"

"Hawkeye! Stop doing that!"

Date: 2016-07-23 01:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] burkeonthesly
Nice.

Date: 2016-07-22 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
How messed up is it that Tony Stark -- the guy who friggin' kidnapped and ran invasive tests on him -- is the only one who actually seems concerned about Ulysses as a human being and not as a pre-crime detection system?

Date: 2016-07-22 09:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] korvar
...when he's not kidnapping and torturing him.

Date: 2016-07-23 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
Hence the messed up part.

Date: 2016-07-22 07:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
I know, right? If he's not being held under heavy protection in the Triskelion, where just about anyone can drop in to see him anyway, either authorized or sneaking through), he's being loaned out to Spider-Man and Parker Industries, or the Inhumans, or Captain Marvel's program... dude never seems to get any downtime. If he's not predicting end of the world shit, he's apparently predicting street-level crime and super-villain attacks.

This would have worked better if he was a future-predicting computer. Or maybe an alien robot that can see the future. Like some sort of recording device that saw all of space and time. A... Recorder, if you will. But no, that's crazy talk, Marvel didn't just introduce that exact same concept within the past few months or anything... (Deadpool and the Mercs for Money limited series.)

Date: 2016-07-22 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thezmage
I've only been a reading a few of the scans posted here, but I'm already sick of seeing Ulysses' dumb face. I hope he turns out to be evil and then dies so I never have to see him again.

Date: 2016-07-22 04:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tigerkaya
Agreed, being retconned out would be a nice bonus.

Date: 2016-07-23 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
I just hope the poor guy gets depowered so he can live a normal life free of painful horrific visions.

Date: 2016-07-23 10:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] skjam
For another story of someone affected by the partition of Pakistan and India, see "Seeds for Change" by Marly Cornell, the biography of Surinder and Edda Sehgal (founders of the Sehgal Foundation.)

http://www.skjam.com/2015/11/13/book-review-seeds-for-change/

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