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Date: 2016-09-19 08:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-19 08:09 pm (UTC)it was the 70's it's best not to ask too many questions...
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Date: 2016-09-19 10:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-20 12:14 am (UTC)He could just have bought the thing.
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Date: 2016-09-20 02:02 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-20 05:27 pm (UTC);)
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Date: 2016-09-19 08:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-19 09:00 pm (UTC)And yes, I miss Betty and her Big ass sword.
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Date: 2016-09-19 09:04 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-19 10:09 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2016-09-19 09:24 pm (UTC)I wouldn't exactly trust him with numbers.
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Date: 2016-09-20 05:37 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-20 06:07 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-20 06:15 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-20 07:58 am (UTC)It's a bomb, they're meant to cause destruction and death, and Banner didn't calculate the risk of its potential side effects on human biology? Pretty big oversight.
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Date: 2016-09-20 01:20 pm (UTC)Banner's only sin was trying to save the life of a dumb teenager who was committing a minor crime of trespassing, not realizing he was endangering his life. A lot of recent history seems to make it out like Banner was experimenting on himself and miscalculated, when the only mistake he made was violating a safety protocol to save a stranger who had unwittingly put himself in mortal peril.
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Date: 2016-09-20 09:58 pm (UTC)Didn't exactly work out that way, but it's not like he had time to perfect it through experiments ;)
I think Jen and Amadeaus get a salary....
Date: 2016-09-20 12:18 am (UTC)Re: I think Jen and Amadeaus get a salary....
Date: 2016-09-20 03:04 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-19 10:43 pm (UTC)"Oh, hey, I was working on a bunch of cool stuff for y'all but I didn't tell you until I was dead."
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Date: 2016-09-20 03:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-19 11:47 pm (UTC)Hulk was reflecting on what his own might be like, how few would mourn, but most would breath a sigh of relief.
It's a real shame we don't see that here. Don't get me wrong, I don't want writers to beat up on Hulk while he's away, but he is at his core a monster. Even if you accept that he's never killed anyone (and I do), he's caused untold destruction. And his ol' bit 'Hulk just wants to be left alone', doesn't much hold water given how often Hulk wanders into populated areas, and Banner's sought to Re-Hulk himself too many times to say 'You should just get me a cure'.
I like Hulk, character and concept, but there is some moral ambiguity that should come hand in hand with his character, and IMO we really don't see that here
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Date: 2016-09-20 01:56 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-20 01:59 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-20 01:59 am (UTC)Plus these are his friends and family, Hulk and Banner has saved them countless of times. You must think them to be extremely heartless if you thought they wouldn't be sad he died.
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Date: 2016-09-20 02:11 am (UTC)It's not that I don't expect those who were close to him not to mourn him, it's that I dislike the lack of focus on his victims. Hulk has done some good I agree, but he's still a monster. A tragic one, but a monster still.
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Date: 2016-09-20 03:56 am (UTC)And what victims? Besides, we did see people saying they were happy he died, we even saw General Ross saying as much.
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Date: 2016-09-20 11:10 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-20 12:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-20 08:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-20 10:03 pm (UTC)Like it or not, it's canon that whenever Hulk's not under the influence of mind control, he's never killed anyone during his rampages/only in self defense. Hell, in the instance you cite I'm pretty sure Maestro is to blame for starting the fight.
But that's beside my point. Even if Hulk's never killed anyone, he's done untold damage to thousands, and they really should explore that some.
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Date: 2016-09-21 01:09 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-21 01:41 am (UTC)Hulk's killed, yes. But only the people we've seen on screen and only deliberately/in self defense.
When Banner stubs his toe and destroys a small town, no one dies. That's canon.
When he gets pissed at Trauma during a fight, well, bye bye Trauma.
I just think that simply because the Hulk hasn't left a trail of dead bodies behind him, doesn't mean that he's not left significant damage in his wake, and that should be focused on.
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Date: 2016-09-21 10:52 pm (UTC)Where the heck is Lyra?
Date: 2016-09-20 12:21 am (UTC)Re: Where the heck is Lyra?
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