Mind rape?

Jul. 24th, 2009 11:31 am
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While they didn't create the term, TV Tropes defines "Mind Rape" as when "a character is attacked by a villain in the most painful non-physical way possible. Their mind and soul are assaulted with painful, horrifying visions and memories, and broken until they're powerless and numb, but not dead, although afterwards they may wish they were. Nothing sexual occurs, but everything else is there to resemble a rape - violation, helplessness, and the poisoning of what could otherwise be a source of joy."

However I've seen a lot of people throw the term around whenever a character gets their mind read without their permission, as if it's just as bad (or almost as bad) as the act of sexual assault itself.

One such example occurred in New Avengers #19, by Brian Michael Bendis and Mike Deodato.

SHIELD has asked the New Avengers for help dealing with the Collective, which is later revealed to be the unified energy signatures of all the mutants depowered after "M-Day." Spider-Man and the Young Avengers' Vision are on the Helicarrier when SHIELD discovers that the energy readings match those of a large number of the depowered  mutants. When Spider-Man discovers the connection to the House of M, Iron Man tells him to take the Vision and get off the ship.




Later...






Another example of when the term "mind rape" was used was in reference to this scene from Captain America #28, by Ed Brubaker and Steve Epting.




So, do you think any of these examples are comparable to actually raping someone?

Date: 2009-07-24 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taggerung301.insanejournal.com
that's very true - he has pretty much no mental defenses

Date: 2009-07-24 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thokstar.insanejournal.com
This is actually a serious issue I have with how telepathy is typically portrayed: nobody has any sort of mental defenses unless they are also a telepath. (I think source books for making the X-men into RPG characters essentially force you to take a small amount of telepathy when making such a character, just to represent that they actually have a nonzero save versus telepathy.)

My general feeling is that everybody (with small exceptions) should have a default small amount of telepathic defenses, just like how anybody who's not bedridden/asleep has at least a token amount of resistance to a physical attack.

Date: 2009-07-24 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liliaeth.insanejournal.com
Most of the X-men seem to have some kind of mental defenses. But then again, most of them were trained by, or trained with telepaths.

Date: 2009-07-24 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magus_69.insanejournal.com
In the X-Men's case, it's been said a few times that they have undergone anti-telepath training, on top of having psychic shields installed by Xavier.

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