Justice League of America - Rebirth #1

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[arthur_wynne]

Sure thing, Bats, but... Lobo?

[freezer]

And from somewhere in the Multiverse, the X-Men scream "YOU'LL BE SOOOOORRYYYYYYYY!"

[tcampbell1000]

Steve Orlando's done some amazing stuff, but it's hard to get beyond how forced the rationale here is, even by superhero-team-book standards. The idea of "opening up the League to the [sort of] people we protect" is not without merit... but I don't know who on Earth would look at this bunch and think "Yes, this looks like a totally normal group of people, just what we need to make the League cuddly and relatable."

I mean, MAYBE Ryan Choi and Black Canary. But Vixen's a supermodel with the powers of feral animals, Frost literally has "Killer" in her name and didn't go to prison because she failed to pay parking tickets, Ray presents as a living silhouette, Batman is The Night, and yeah, Lobo would sink this PR effort all by himself even if the other five members Batman invited on were the current and former members of One Direction.

[kalanyr]

My guess was that (apart from Lobo) they are all of normal human origin (no aliens, divine beings, part atlanteans) and there powers came afterwards.

I don't think Lobo was part of Batman's plan exactly either, just an opportunity he saw and decided to take it (gives the JLA a Super League tank if required and it the League gives Batman a way to keep Lobo relatively under control and near people who could potentially handle him.

[tcampbell1000]

Okay, that makes a little more sense, though it's an oddly Trumpian criterion that, again, is totally invalidated by making Lobo part of the group. "Racial diversity we got, sure, but NO NON-HUMANS-- stop staring at our seven-foot super-Peter Fonda, he's not an alien, he's just got an albino skin condition. You know, like the Joker-- but he's not like the Joker in any OTHER way LOBO, PUT DOWN THOSE CARS"

[thehood]

They'd be pretty underpowered without a team tank.

[thosefew]

Is what's coming Leviathan? I feel we've been here before...

[zachbeacon]

Is that one of the Atoms? That has to be the world's laziest costume

Or is it just laundry day?

Now I have this mental image of Bruce showing up as Zebra Batman because Alfred took some time off and that's the only clean costume he had.

[wizardru]

That's the new version of Ryan Choi and he's delightful. I suspect he's not wearing the costume because Ray still has his and he doesn't want to rip off his mentor.

[zachbeacon]

Didn't think pre-nu52 Ryan's costume was that similar to Ray's classic suit but I don't know what Ray wears these days.

The only time I've had major costume confusion was after Flash Rebirth (the first one) where Wally and Barry had basically the same outfit with some minor differences.

How does new Ryan compair to Gail Simone's Ryan... other than wardrobe?

[nyadnar17]

I LOVE the idea of a superhero laundry day where they just show up in whatever.

[katefan]

At the end of the comic they show his armor in a flash-forward, which looks a bit space-suit-ish, which I have no problem with. The Atom is the sort of guy that is heading into bizarre subatomic realms, his costume should protect him from potentially harsh environments.

[sir_razorback]

Forgive me if I've asked this before. I may have, the question tickles part of my brain but I can't recall an answer. Has the latest reboot reconciled Lobo and Faux-Bo, or have they just swept that under the rug and hoped nobody gives a damn enough to question it too closely.

[long_silence]

nuBo was recently seen as part of Larfleeze's collection having been shrunken down by Brainiac who is serving Larfleeze

[lamashtar]

This feels like a retread of a bad 80's/90's idea.

[kalanyr]

Batman forms his own Justice League analogue is a pretty well used formula now yeah (the Outsiders at least twice and at least two instance of the Justice League itself, that I can think of).

[coldfury]

Hah, poor Oliver. Left off the team again!

[tigerkaya]

Oh for god sake a Batman are still going on about "It's a job for humans not gods" bs. Just shut up already you twat and stick to fighting crime bosses.

[shadowpsykie]

yay! I hope this means (with last night's episode) that Good Killer Frost (or just Frost) will last and that TV Caitlyn can be a hero too!

[tcampbell1000]

From JUSTICE LEAGUE #1, 1987.

[dcbanacek]

Aside from the "Because he's Batman" answer, how the hell did Batman get Lobo of all people to behave?

Vril Dox had to beat the snot out of him back in L.E.G.I.ON. but that was a mentioned in story one time occurrence that couldn't be repeated.

[long_silence]

Maxwell Lord was mind controlling Lobo (with the rest of Task Force I) and Batman freed him by blowing his head up.

When it grew back Lobo said he owed Batman a favor. And this is how Bats called it in

[dcbanacek]

I can buy that. Thanks.

[thanekos]

I get the feeling if you asked the creative team " Is this basically an Outsiders book? ", they'd wink at you.

[zylly]

Yeah, I'm echoing the chorus on the "humans not gods" thing ringing false. And I think Vic, Barry, and the Lanterns would argue about being classified as gods.

Still, I enjoyed the one shots, so I can take iffy rationale.