"You could at least acknowledge some of my other points."
Because they don't mitigate any of my initial points.
"1. The original Big Hero 6 comics barely gave their characters any personality or characterization. They were based on Japanese stereotypes (the sushi chef, the kaiju, the girl with the hammerspace bag)"
That's more or less the same excuse used for Tilda Swinton. That the original character was racist so therefore changing the race was nbd.
"2.You're ignoring the fact that TJ Miller, Fred's voice actor, is Jewish. Stan Lee is Jewish and he essentially played himself in the movie as well as Fred's father. The movie version of Fred is probably Jewish, not white."
That's all debatable but If that's the case then you should have no problem with them replacing a character like Cyborg with Michael Cera or Jesse Eisenberg. Because they're not white because they're Jewish and so therefore not whitewashing.
"3. Marvel and Disney literally used Asian iconography to make Kamar-Taj look exotic in Doctor Strange. Still the movie made money and Benedict Cumberbatch is getting a huge role in future Marvel movies. I'd hardly say they experienced any real blow back."
Tilda Swinton received a ton of shit for playing an Asian character. Far more than anything BH6 did. Benedict received crap for playing Khan in Star Trek, if he had actually played an Asian character he probably would have gotten crap for it.
"4. There is a difference in appropriating Japanese iconography to make the setting look exotic and actually respecting Japanese culture. The fact that Japanese American characters were still at the heart of the movie is part of that distinction."
If they cared about Japanese people they would have set the story in Japan. That's like saying if they made Moana take place in America in a city called "Polyfrisco" it would be respecting Polynesian people.
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Date: 2017-07-17 01:55 am (UTC)Because they don't mitigate any of my initial points.
"1. The original Big Hero 6 comics barely gave their characters any personality or characterization. They were based on Japanese stereotypes (the sushi chef, the kaiju, the girl with the hammerspace bag)"
That's more or less the same excuse used for Tilda Swinton. That the original character was racist so therefore changing the race was nbd.
"2.You're ignoring the fact that TJ Miller, Fred's voice actor, is Jewish. Stan Lee is Jewish and he essentially played himself in the movie as well as Fred's father. The movie version of Fred is probably Jewish, not white."
That's all debatable but If that's the case then you should have no problem with them replacing a character like Cyborg with Michael Cera or Jesse Eisenberg. Because they're not white because they're Jewish and so therefore not whitewashing.
"3. Marvel and Disney literally used Asian iconography to make Kamar-Taj look exotic in Doctor Strange. Still the movie made money and Benedict Cumberbatch is getting a huge role in future Marvel movies. I'd hardly say they experienced any real blow back."
Tilda Swinton received a ton of shit for playing an Asian character. Far more than anything BH6 did. Benedict received crap for playing Khan in Star Trek, if he had actually played an Asian character he probably would have gotten crap for it.
"4. There is a difference in appropriating Japanese iconography to make the setting look exotic and actually respecting Japanese culture. The fact that Japanese American characters were still at the heart of the movie is part of that distinction."
If they cared about Japanese people they would have set the story in Japan. That's like saying if they made Moana take place in America in a city called "Polyfrisco" it would be respecting Polynesian people.