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The latest of DC's Hanna-Barbera reimaginings is Snagglepuss, who is reimagined as a gay southern playwright in the 1950s.

There's not much more intro to be had, so let's jump right into the book.

We open on the final night of SP (as Snagglepuss is generally known)'s hit play, My Heart is a Kennel of Thieves...

(I like the greyhound looking lady in the audience on that last page...the 'why am I applauding dogface?' look...)

After the show, he drops off his (knowing) beard, Lila Lion, and has his driver bring him to the Village.

(Edit I'd originally included another scene in here, but it pushed the post over the limit, in combination with this one, which happily posted the same scene, so cutting down was easier.)

The next day, he goes to meet with Dorothy Parker (real people are playing a pretty big role in this book)...

Well, there's no way that Parker's pessimism could possibly have a point about SP's life, could it?

Oh. (SP's first time in front of the HUAC was in the Suicide Squad/Banana Splits annual's backup.)

This is just a taste - Huckleberry Hound is totally missing, as is a sideplot involving the Rosenbergs' executions...plus more details of the stuff covered here.

Date: 2018-01-10 04:32 am (UTC)
alicemacher: Lisa Winklemeyer from the webcomic Penny and Aggie, c2004-2011 G. Lagacé, T Campbell (Default)
From: [personal profile] alicemacher
Interesting... I don't really know much of anything about the original Snagglepuss cartoons or comics, but I see what they're going for here. Also, I like Dorothy Parker's bon mots.

Date: 2018-01-10 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
The easiest way to describe the original Snagglepuss is that... he acted like a lion of refined taste and a gentleman. in other words flamboyant as all hell (or as flamboyant as 50's TV-animation budget with very limited movement allowed...). plots usually involved him wanting to make his cave more inhabitable.
Naturally, a lot of people believed he was gay and was given a love interest in response, also known as the "Batwoman syndrome" (her name is Lila and I assume she is the pink lionness in the play).

Now, one might assume he is supposed to be a knock-off on the Pink Panther giving they are both pink felines (and, IIRC, PP himself was somewhat flamboyant as well) but no, Snagglepuss was first introduced in 1959, 4 years before the "Pink Panther" film (of which the character is based off)

Like similar hannah-barbera anthropormorphic talking animal characters, he would later be absorbedinto the larger "Yogi Bear" mythos and used as part of it's supporting cast in later projects...... I just used the phrase "yogi bear Mythos" unironically... man i know way too much about this stuff...
Edited Date: 2018-01-10 02:28 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-01-10 03:01 pm (UTC)
randyripoff: (splash brannigan)
From: [personal profile] randyripoff
The Pink Panther cartoons featured him as a silent protagonist, just trying to get through life but having misadventures anyway. Sometimes he was the straight man, and sometimes the funny, but he rarely seemed particularly flamboyant outside of the Pink Panther films.

Date: 2018-01-10 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
Okay then.
I do distinctly remember an image of him with one of those long cigarrette holders, which I often associate with women and flamboyant men... hell snagglepuss uses one in this very comic.
Then again, my point was more that any resemblance with the pink panther is mostly a huge coincidence and him not being flamboyant does support my point.

Date: 2018-01-10 03:52 pm (UTC)
randyripoff: (splash brannigan)
From: [personal profile] randyripoff
He was likely using a cigarette holder from one of the opening sequences of those films. However, my main intent was to clear up any confusion about the Pink Panther cartoons, not to argue your point. Snagglepuss definitely debuted well before the Pink Panther.

Date: 2018-01-10 06:20 am (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Was Dorothy Parker once of those "Television is furniture" types?

Date: 2018-01-10 12:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Not quite sure what that means, except in terms of TV isn't real art.

Dorothy Parker was a poet, a critic, a playwright and a satirist who had a legendarily sharp and rather caustic wit, and a nice line is self deprecation. She filled in as a theatre critic when PG Wodehouse (whose role that normally was) was taking a holiday, if that helps. She never wrote for TV but did some work for radio, so I'm not sure she'dhaave objected.

One of my favourite quotes from he is from one of her book reviews;

And it is that word 'hummy,' my darlings, that marks the first place in The House at Pooh Corner at which Tonstant Weader fwowed up.

I have a deal of sympathy with her on that one.

Date: 2018-01-10 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
I do remember there was some conflict with Television because it was felt re-runs would ruin theathre and leave actors without a job (theathre actors would make the play ONCE and then to hell with them). I don't know if writers felt the same, though.

Date: 2018-01-10 01:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Writers would probably be happy, since they'd be paid by the week.

If you ever get a chance to read author and playweights Helene Hanff's books about her life in the less showy side of showbiz (and the brilliant "84 Charing Cross Road" about her "pen-pal" relationship with the staff of a London bookshop, made into an excellent film with Ann Bancroft and Anthony Hopkins) I do recommend you do.

She mentions the time she was a scriptwriter on an early Ellery Queen TV series, and had the problem that they could only afford a cast of five people per episode, which meant after you had Ellery, his Chief of Police father, whoever ended up as the dead body and a cop for the grunt work, there really was only room for one other person, so working out "Whodunnit" was rarely the challenge it should have been! :)

Date: 2018-01-10 03:15 pm (UTC)
thanekos: Lora, crafting. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
That's when you go reverse whodunnit.

Date: 2018-01-10 02:28 pm (UTC)
mister_terrific: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mister_terrific
My god...someone who remembers Dorothy Parker and the Round Table. I was thinking I was the only one. :)

“If you have any young friends who aspire to become writers, the second greatest favor you can do them is to present them with copies of The Elements of Style. The first greatest, of course, is to shoot them now, while they’re happy.”

Dotty was also a notorious suicide attempter, and at one point penned this:

“Razors pain you,
Rivers are damp,
Acids stain you,
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful,
Nooses give,
Gas smells awful.
You might as well live.”

Date: 2018-01-10 04:05 pm (UTC)
cygnia: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cygnia
When I did speech tournaments, her "The Waltz" was my go-to piece for Humorous Interpretation.

Date: 2018-01-10 06:38 pm (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
The full quote is “Theatre is life, film is art, and television is furniture.” No one seems to know who said it first.

Date: 2018-01-10 08:28 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bolindbergh
1988 pixels is a bit on the wide side.


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