Date: 2020-03-22 11:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] coldfury
What's weird about this is it feels like Snyder had the idea to have the heroes lose a vote of the people in Last Knight on Earth, and liked the idea so much he immediately carried it over to his Justice League run like six months later.

Date: 2020-03-22 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tcampbell1000
FIGHT FASCISM AND VOTER APATHY, PUT SUGAR AND SPIKE BACK IN CONTINUITY!

Like, on the one hand, I want to applaud Snyder for using a superhero story to address the current era when so many seem to be trying to ignore it. "We lost the vote" has real emotional power, and it's correct that Superman and Wonder Woman just soapboxing to everyone "You're ALL heroes to us" feels a little old-fashioned these days.

But like Doomsday Clock, this story seems to look around at the world's problems, freeze in the spotlight, grin awkwardly, and slowly lift up DC Comics' crazy history of endless reboots and variations as if that's some kind of intuitively obvious solution. "We make everything matter" sounds good, but "give reckoning to every story" sounds, um... like something I may have seen before. Mistrust in government and the media is likely to kill at least one of your older relatives before the end of the year, so sure, let's focus on giving Vidal from Adventure Comics #260 his own Wikipedia page and see if that helps.

(I will eagerly and enthusiastically apologize if this turns out to be about greater inclusivity--about recognizing the "stories" that have really been ignored in our retellings of America's and the world's stories, and not just by showing that time Alan Scott had a boyfriend for three pages. Maybe I shouldn't assume. It's just that DC's attention seems to wander quickly from anything not related to its big #brands, and naked appeals to our longboxes are so easy.)

Date: 2020-03-22 02:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cygnia
Are both DC and Marvels' populations competing to be Worst Ever now?

Date: 2020-03-22 04:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lordultimus
This reads like a weird commentary about how Scott Snyder failed to engage readers into his run.

Date: 2020-03-22 10:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shakalooloo
"So do not be insolent when you don't understand noth-"

Excellent double negative there, Highfather. Calling the Justice League 'you lot' was classy as well. No wonder you're one of the higher powers, nossir.

Date: 2020-03-23 01:32 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jaxjyls
I feels kinda disingenuous for Snyder to clumsily lecture the reader for supporting Doom when he's been writing nothing but dark and gritty for the past few years

Date: 2020-03-24 03:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
I don't quite agree with that. I mean, Snyder's mostly taking aim at apathy and selfishness, he's not doing the Geoff Johns thing of "Everything was grim and horrible, but now it's good because [insert old white dude] is back! Also, to kick off the relaunch next month, every character loses a limb and a loved one!" where he decries trends than then immediately turns around and perpetuates them.

I've give you Snyder going dark, but it's a pretty over the top dark aesthetic, not exactly unrelenting grimness which he goes for. And Snyder's rejected grittiness going as far back as his decision to position Batman as an aspirational figure rather than a fear one.

I think it's as silly as any other superhero comic that tries to convince us that this really matters, but I don't see it as specifically disingenuous or hypocritical.

Date: 2020-03-23 11:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zylly
As I've said before, the world voting in favor of doom has the exact opposite energy of the end of Morrison's run, where the entire Earth gets powers and unilaterally decides to use them to go help Superman.

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