Date: 2020-08-14 07:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mastermahan
If Jim Gordon was cool with cops executing prisoners, why the hell is the Joker still alive?

It's hard to get into this anymore, considering.

Date: 2020-08-14 09:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Yeah, Gordon just casually turning a blind eye to police murdering someone in custody (even if they are a cop killer) seems to be totally out of character and, all things considered ritght now, the sort of thing one might have thought editorial would pull a book over.

Date: 2020-08-14 09:33 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mastermahan
I'm sure a lot of editors are wishing they'd kept a better eye on Warren Ellis.

Date: 2020-08-17 05:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shakalooloo
It's very similar to Ellis having Steve Rogers turning a blind eye to torture in his 'Secret Avengers' run. Hmm...

Date: 2020-08-14 09:20 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Wasn't Scorn the name they gave the Wrath's Robin analogue?

Started out in "The Batman" cartoon and then made the jump to comics in the "Batman Confidential" title years back.

I guess the name-recycler felt it was time..

Date: 2020-08-14 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
This was pretty much the Wrath's deal, too, right? Saw his parents shot by cops, became an anti-Batman?

Date: 2020-08-14 01:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Yup, complete Anti-Batman

Parents were thieves, kid was their lookout. Parents killed by police (In the original by Jim Gordon, post Crisis it was some other cop). Kid grows up swearing vengeance on all cops as the Wrath.

Ends up being killed as the Wrath by Jim Gordon

In the later story a new Wrath appears, determiend to take down cops, Batman and Nightwing.

We find out that he was a kid secretly adopted by the Wrath in a twisted version of Robin's origin. Kid was devoted to Wrath, and when the Wrath is killed (before anyone else even know about the kid) swears revenge when he's an adult.

Gets even MORE messed up at the end, when Nightwing discovers evidence that this kid was not the first Scorn, he was just the first Scorn to survive the Wraths insane training regimen.

Date: 2020-08-16 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jmacq1
It's also more or less Prometheus' backstory as well.

There's a lot of "Anti-Batmans" it seems.

Date: 2020-08-17 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
Enough to make at least a small team.

(Before Dark Knights, that might've actually sounded like fun...)

Date: 2020-08-14 11:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
Is this an Elseworld or something?

And that last panel has me thinking they wrote a whole story around making a Batman version of this meme:

Date: 2020-08-15 03:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lego_joker
LBR, in this day and age every new comic is an Elseworld until the Continuity Gods (Jim Lee and... Jesus Christ, is anyone else in his pay-grade not fired) put out a new timeline saying This Is What Matters.

Date: 2020-08-16 08:54 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] matrix_dragon
I'm sorry, did Jim Gordon just cheerfully walk away from a pair of police officers playing judge, jury and executioner? I... what?

Date: 2020-08-18 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
I assume this'll turn out to be some alternate evilverse, but still, why would Batman need to torture some dude? He's the world's greatest detective, a master of hypnosis and body reading, an expert in drugs and truth serums, a billionaire with an encyclopedic knowledge of everyone's weaknesses. He has dozens of more narratively interesting ways to get information out of this guy. Why use him in a story at all if he's just going to do real-world crooked cop stuff?

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