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We continue the run of Machine Man with a new supporting cast being introduced by new creative team of Marv Wolfman and Steve Ditko.

Full disclosure: This part of the Machine Man run was reprinted as a backup strip in the UK Transformers comic and even as a kid I thought it felt incredibly dated, in its depictions of women in particular, and when compiling this posts I was surprised to see it was from 1979, having assumed the issues came far earlier.

So you have been warned.

But also I can't resist posting the pages of the ultimate square, Aaron Stack, getting a job in an insurance firm, as we really need more superheroes with incredibly mundane day jobs.

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"This is at the root of murder. We kill people to make our own lives better. We kill them because they are obstacles to our desires, because they make us unhappy, because they burden us, or because they keep calling us fucking wizards. Murder increases happiness." - Warren Ellis

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"One thing that does change the nature of the book is that my six issues are all self-contained single issues. So they're all about working through each book's mission, which doesn't leave much space for the characters to do anything other than be who they are." - Warren Ellis

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"You make it sound like I get my choice of Marvel jobs! No, what happened was, Ed Brubaker was leaving the book, and he suggested me to replace him. I'm still under contract at Marvel, and they can take my house away if I turn down a job. Which is why I'm writing the Spectacular Spider-Ham: The Vicodin Years book that's also being announced this weekend." - Warren Ellis

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"The man is demented in more interesting ways than I think Batman ever was. [His] cape is actually a crescent moon and he goes out only at night and dresses in reflective white so you can see him coming. Now that’s nuts…. I like that." - Warren Ellis

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'We all have to do what Ed [Brubaker] says now. He dresses like one of those old-time Mafia dons from Godfather 2 these days, and talks about "dipping his beak" a lot. If I were to create new characters, he would say "this is not the act of a friend" and the next morning I'd wake up with my kid's horse's head in my bed. So, yes, I'm still using the Shadow Council. But it amuses me to fold some old Marvel history in there too. I just hope Ed doesn't notice.' - Warren Ellis

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"Well, Ed told me that one of the big influences behind the book's conception was my Global Frequency. Which was a series of self-contained single issues (that predates Fell). So, I thought, I sort of remember how to write those, so let's take Secret Avengers all the way back there. I dunno if it's the right approach, but it's the one I'm using. It should contrast the book nicely with the other Avengers books. Since I started responding to this interview, Marvel's commissioned Naked Avengers from Bendis, but that opens with a six-issue arc entitled "Avengers Disrobed," so we're still good." - Warren Ellis

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"Secret Avengers has an incredibly simple setup. Run the mission. Don't get seen. Save the world. Easy. The frontispiece tells you everything about the characters you need to know." - Warren Ellis

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"AXM:SS, like Joss & John’s AXM, runs parallel to mainline continuity, sort of looping in and out of the timeline like a drunk driver cutting you up on the open road. (Shush. This sort of thing is important to some people.) This means that, like Joss, I can do four stories without having to refer to, react to or otherwise deal with monthly shifts in continuity. It’s as close to complete creative freedom as you can get on a major franchise book. It means that I can ring changes without having to worry about anyone else. I already told the main X-writers that I am their blood enemy now. I don’t think they quite understood. This is why I don’t have any friends." - Warren Ellis

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"XENOGENESIS, and the remaining issues of EXOGENETIC (and that’s how fried I was, that I came up with two titles that sound almost the same and didn’t catch it) represent the last of my ASTONISHING X-MEN work. (EXOGENETIC was nearly called DOCTOR X, but Axel Alonso told me to basically sober up. I still kind of regret that. It has a goofy pulpy sound that reflects the material better.)" - Warren Ellis

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"So I was writing ASTONISHING X-MEN. I was writing a serial therein called GHOST BOX. I had also started writing the next serial, XENOGENESIS, so we didn’t lose time when GHOST BOX ended. And then there were problems with GHOST BOX, and apparently the only solution was for me to write a short spin-off piece called GHOST BOXES. And then there were problems with XENOGENESIS, and apparently the only solution was for me to write a new serial to temporarily replace it called EXOGENETIC. And this all happened within the same couple of months, as I recall, and basically broke me." - Warren Ellis

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"Oh, the usual, you know. Raping your childhoods, using my position to destroy everything you love, displaying opinions you may not agree with and writing with my own voice and personality. All the things people hate in commercial comics these days. And yet, all the things I am specifically hired for. It's a funny old world." - Warren Ellis

"I try to make my art a little more mature. Not sexual but definitely more adult. I think of Spider-Man as more about innocence. There's a naivete, even if it's 'Spider-Man: Reign' where even if he's an old man, there's an innocence to him and a simplicity. With X-Men, it's just adult. It's all these adult feelings and issue like racism and fascism." - Kaare Andrews

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"There's almost a case to be made that Grant dragged the franchise to the end of the 20th Century, not least by fast-forwarding through the recent history of the superhero comic. The first page of his run is Logan and Scott stabbing and obliterating giant death robots, but within the space of pages, he's reestablished the X-Men as a pacifist team. In fact, they actually fail every time they attempt to default to physical violence to resolve situations, which inverts the whole thing (Joe Casey tried something similar in his Superman run). And then, by the end, he inverts it again with the ultimate act of violence -- loving violence, mind, indulgent violence -- by essentially burning out an entire future. Resetting the X-Men as a team run by sex and violence -- Emma and Scott. And the first thing Joss does is to put them back in the fetish gear, send them out to beat up everyone they see in the name of Acceptance Into The Society -- pacifists in municipal worker's gear didn't cut it, but a crew of gimp suits smacking people around brings them the love of the culture!" - Warren Ellis

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"198 was the number of surviving mutants post-House of M, but, really, who did that count? I'm not saying that new mutants will be popping out of the woodwork, but there's some serious geopolitical blinkers happening, still. Do you really think Nigeria or Zimbabwe are capable or willing to count mutant heads? Take Nigeria, a place we all think we know well because of their generous email invitations to enter into banking relationships. The life expectancy in Nigeria is 47 years. 3% of the population is living with HIV. Their water's nine parts poison and their soil is riddled with H5N1 and Lassa Fever. The place is rife with ethnic and religious unrest, they threw a CNN team out a few years ago for daring to report the news, and they only stopped blatantly working with narco-traffickers about a year ago. (Also, when did people start treating Africa as a single country?) You can guarantee that some things that happened in places like Nigeria never made it to the outside world. I'm not saying I want to do a run that's all about looking back, but I think it's worth making sure we can see the entire playing field." - Warren Ellis

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"I worked in the X-Office back in the 90s, but they never let me near their big toys in case I broke them or put them in my mouth or something. So when this came up, and when the degree of creative freedom that comes with it became clear, I thought, why the hell not? I mean, you never get to make your 'stamp' on these things, because the franchise needs to keep running and everything gets dug over and re-invented in the end. But I like the technical challenge in these commercial gigs: to bring the property into the era of its production, as it were, and to write stories I'd like to read." - Warren Ellis

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"The metaphor of mutantcy has meant many things to many people over the years. It's been code for adolescence, for race, for sexuality, for politics and probably a dozen other things. I want to see what it actually means in the 21st Century. This, to me, is interesting work: to take a sounding of a franchise that has meant so much and so many things to so many people over the years, and to see what else it still has to say; to look forward and see how this badge of X -- which didn't have the cultural load it carries today when Lee and Kirby generated the idea -- can be made to mean. Also, I think planes will probably crash, beer will be drunk, people will get stabbed and certain characters will have what Joss called 'the crazy weasel sex.' But there will be no crying. This is very important. There is too much crying in science fiction these days." - Warren Ellis

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"I told [editors] Axel and Nick that the title had to change. It had to be called Astonishing X-Men: Second Stage. And so it will. For several reasons. First off, I want Joss and John's run to stand contained and inviolate. If all you ever really wanted was Whedon/Cassaday X-Men, then there'll be those four trades or whatever and that's it, it's as closed as an X-Men story gets. Which, commercially, is suicide, I'm sure. But I can do that much for my friends. Second Stage, therefore, picks up none of the themes or story points in their run. It's a clean break. It also gives me a clear field of fire, which was important to me. I didn't want to spend time sweeping up after Joss." - Warren Ellis

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