Date: 2022-07-23 01:30 am (UTC)
huntleyhaverstock: Joel McCrea as Johnny Jones, aka "Huntley Haverstock," in Alfred Hitchcock's FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT (Default)
From: [personal profile] huntleyhaverstock
That seems … far less bad than I feared. Actually good, even, maybe? I hope Ellis really is learning and growing from listening to others. It’s possible to do such a thing, however much understandable skepticism that idea and Ellis’s sordid history invites. But it would be nice to enjoy a fairly decent thing like this — great art, too! — without being repulsed by its creator.

Date: 2022-07-23 09:35 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shakalooloo
Still, would've been a nice touch to put the artist's name on the cover, even if he isn't that big a name. Marek Oleksicki.

Date: 2022-07-23 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] super_fly
"And for many years hence, those who read your work will argue back and forth about how Frankenstein is the name of my creator, and not my own."

Date: 2022-07-23 09:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shakalooloo
Look, there are two trains of thought, right? The creation is a person, or the creation is not a person. If the creation is a person, then he is the doctor's son, and so his name is Frankenstein until he should choose to renounce it.

If the creation is not a person, then it is still 'a Frankenstein', as a car made by the Ford Motor Company is 'a Ford', or a van Gogh painting is 'a van Gogh'.

Calling him/it Frankenstein is perfectly correct in either way.

The only monster was Victor himself.

Date: 2022-07-23 04:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sabertoothlotus
Also fairly certain Victor named him "Adam" so the whole "I have no name" thing is actually incorrect

Date: 2022-07-23 11:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lego_joker
IIRC, Mary Shelley called him 'Adam' in a few private letters.

Date: 2022-07-24 03:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lordultimus
Is this new?

Date: 2022-07-24 04:09 am (UTC)
huntleyhaverstock: Joel McCrea as Johnny Jones, aka "Huntley Haverstock," in Alfred Hitchcock's FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT (Default)
From: [personal profile] huntleyhaverstock
Welp, so much for me using the quality of this thing as a hoped-for indicator of Ellis's reformation.

Date: 2022-07-24 05:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] laughing_tree
I mean, whether he reforms or not, the quality of his writing won't be an indicator of it one way or another. He could be completely reformed and then turn out a complete turd of a story. Conversely, if he's still a remorseless shitheel, writing some Eisner-worthy tour de force won't make him less of a shitheel.

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