Batman/Catwoman #1 - "Silent Night"

[laughing_tree]

It's almost like I feel I never got to do something as elevated as Vision or Mister Miracle with Batman. Because it was double-shipped and because we had the artists who had to ship monthly and just because we all had regular life, it's a book that had to be a kind of sprint/marathon. And I'm super proud of it. But we never got to go super deep like I did with those 12 issues minis. And then now I get to sort of do that with Clay on Bat/Cat. We get to do, like I said, a kind of Dark Knight Returns standalone thing. And those are the things I loved writing. -- Tom King

Comments

[themajesticmoose]

I am so happy that Helena Wayne is canonically a lesbian

I had pretty much no interest in checking this series out at first but now that I know it's going to have a version of Helena who is into women I'm going to give it a chance

[lucean]

I just keep hoping that they reveal the name of the new Batwoman in the show is actually Helena as that's pretty much the only way they are going to connect it to all this.

[themajesticmoose]

The fact that she might be taking the name Batwoman at some point is another reason why it's extremely important that Helena Wayne is canonically a lesbian. Because replacing a lesbian hero like Kate Kane with some straight woman would be utterly disgusting

If DC ever made a straight woman Batwoman not only would I have absolutely no interest in the character I'd also have no intention on spending money on any DC product again

[deh_tommy]

I’m pretty sure the first ever Batwoman was a straight woman (or at least attracted to men). Granted, Kate Kane has long since supplanted Kathy as like *the* Batwoman, but still.

[themajesticmoose]

And that's one of the many reasons why I never remotely cared about the silver age Batwoman and viewed her as being an utterly worthless character (If you can even call her a character at all given that she was just garbage page filler created because the writers were scared people thought Batman was gay)

And why I'm very glad that she was erased from continuity and replaced with a character who is actually worth reading about and caring about in the form of Kate Kane

Kate Kane is the only character with the name "Batwoman" who I consider to be worthy of the name and the only one who I have ever cared about. And the only reason I would ever accept any character replacing Kate as Batwoman for any reason would be if she was also an out and proud lesbian

[deh_tommy]

Why should that affect anything? Considering Tom King’s previous Bat stuff, I’m not too confident in him with these characters.

Also, at this point what female Batman-related character *isn’t* attracted to women?

[scorntx]

Martha Wayne?

[themajesticmoose]

It affects my interest because the only kind of characters I care about are characters who are LGBTQ or who I can easily headcanon as such thanks to subtext on the part of the writers.

I don't remotely care about relationships between men and women in fiction and find them either utterly tedious or else just plain nauseating but stories about lesbian characters and relationships are actually interesting and worth reading for me.

So while I have no interest or desire in reading about a man and a woman together the fact that there's a lesbian character in the series who will hopefully have a girlfriend in it means that I might actually find this series interesting to read

I base all my decisions on what I read/watch based on whether there's either canon queer women in said story or ones who I can easily ship together. I'm not one of those people who says ridiculous nonsense like "Sexuality shouldn't matter". I am queer. I want stories about people like me. That is the most important thing to me

And unfortunately there are hardly any lesbian characters in the Bat-books, hence why I rarely bother to buy them unless Batwoman, Maggie Sawyer or Renee Montoya are appearing in their pages. So I'm glad that I can add Helena Wayne to the list and she won't just be some utterly boring heterosexual woman but instead actually be a character who it'll be worth my time and money to read about