Dark Nights: Metal #7

[superfangirl1]

The cosmic beings called The hands, communicates with Wonder Woman after she defeated The Batman who laughs.



She sacrifice herself with the ascending to help start restore the Multiverse.

Comments

[stubbleupdate]

Is Diana wearing gloves?

[icon_uk]

What he said...

[iamrman]

Same.

[dan_ingram]

Freakin' seriously.

So can someone breakdown what this means in practice?

Are the JSA back in canon? I presume Diana's dead for a bit

[tcampbell1000]

Honestly, though, this is the most sense that the DC multiverse has made in 37 years, maybe ever. No arbitrary 52 worlds, no half a multiverse centered entirely around Batman, no infinity that somehow gets subtracted down to five. There shouldn't really be any kind of "center" to such a cosmos, but I'm glad that DC is at least no longer making their protagonists' planet the most important world that ever was or will be.

Way to catch up to Galileo there! GOOD JOB, EVERYONE.

[lbd_nytetrayn]

...but I'm glad that DC is at least no longer making their protagonists' planet the most important world that ever was or will be.

Until the next big event, anyway.

[tcampbell1000]

Fair!

[nyadnar17]

Biggest, litterally reality defining even in all history and non-history happens.

Elites: "Lets keep in a secret from the rubes"

Seriously maybe the universe wouldn't need saving every other Tuesday if more than two dozen people where allowed to have input.

[jlbarnett]

I kind of feel like reality being alterable being known is a bad thing

[shakalooloo]

Final Crisis ended with the world becoming fully aware of multiverses, with radio shows speculating what it meant for society, and that revelation was quickly forgotten all about.

[themajesticmoose]

I take your meaning but can we please use a word other than "Elites"?

Just because the word has really horrible connotations thanks to the past few years of Republican trash and assorted other morons using it as a dog whistle for antisemitic conspiracy theories

[lordultimus]

Really? Because I've seen plenty of left-wing types referring to Trump's circle as "elites". I don't think that word has been entirely claimed by the right-wing.

[themajesticmoose]

Maybe not entirely I just feel like it has bad energy thanks to the way it's been used by a lot of awful people

[cricharddavies]

Liberal has been used with immense negative energy by those same people. Should we yield that bit of territory, too?

[lordultimus]

Calling it: the Elseworld is DC's back-up in case Future State doesn't work out so they can have their younger and hipper DC Earth.

Also, poor Donna should now remember all her contradictory origins at once.

[stubbleupdate]

I was under the impression that future State was just a two month break before everything went back to (the new) normal

[lordultimus]

Several aspects are pretty clearly what DC is aiming for - Jon taking the Superman name, Yara Flores is getting her own CW show, etc.

[remial]

"all the histories and timelines are set. and this time we REALLY mean it. not like all the other times we said this."

[lordultimus]

It honestly reads to me the exact opposite. Like, "Okay, we're giving a reason why continuity doesn't work and things constantly contradict each other, now we don't have to try to make everything fit! (But still, buy all these books, they're required reading)".

[icon_uk]

We had that already with Hypertime over twenty years ago now, and look how THAT turned out.

[shakalooloo]

Hawkgirl actually mentions Hypertime in the scans, so maybe we've just come full circle with the concept.

[deh_tommy]

Crisis on Infinite Earths was a mistake.

[repto]

Yeah, lol. "The timelines were unknotted once and for all." Sure, guys.

[iamrman]

You mean to say Batman wasn't the one to save the day?

[nyadnar17]

I will say this. Wonder Woman saving the day as opposed to Batman was really cool.

I wouldn't mind if they leaned more into the Trinity being more of a Rock, Paper, Scissors types deal where WW is Batman's check.

[thanekos]

Comics written for people who think the most interesting thing you can do with continuity is to rearrange it.

(Which, ultimately speaking, is better than comics written for people who think continuity is the stick you use to drive off stories you have problems with.)

[themajesticmoose]

The nicest thing I can say here is: it wasn't another fuckin reboot

And hopefully we can now just go back to pretending this event never happened, much like how writers of the current books have been ignoring that it's happening and how DC thankfully decided to just pretend that Doomsday Clock bollocks never happened either

And please god, let it be at least a decade before we have to endure yet another "Event" like this

And three times as long before we ever see the Batman Who Edgelords, the "Dark Multiverse" or any of this other nonsense ever again

[bruinsfan]

+1

[jaxjyls]

Maybe I'm becoming more jaded with age, but was this whole dark multiverse business just bad?

[themajesticmoose]

That's not being jaded, that's just common sense

[thezmage]

When I first started reading comics the continuity was the main selling point. I loved the potential for crossovers and everything intersecting in fun ways and I never understood the people who saw continuity as an anchor that drug everything down.

I get it now. I understand their position.

EDIT: Also, "Two centers" displays a remarkable misunderstanding of the word "center."

[john_wyatt]

That made me go look up the definition of an ellipse. I remembered something about ellipse have two points where a circle has one, its center. The ellipse ones are called 'focal points,' which in a comic, sounds pretty cool. 'Focal points' sounds better than nonsense like 'two centers.'

[cainofdreaming]

So, if there are no borders does that mean the Vertigo stories are in regular continuity now? I mean, for those who they weren't already.

[themajesticmoose]

Let's not try and apply logic to the incoherent gibberish Scott Snyder wrote in a 15+ issue emotional breakdown over how he's still mad about the New 52 and rather than just moving on and pretending it didn't happen like normal people did would rather obsess over it like it was a comic book version of Fortunato, and he's coming up with a way to wall the event up in his wine cellar

[deh_tommy]

Why would Scott Snyder of all people be mad with The New 52? His Batman run there brought him a lot of attention and that let him do things he probably couldn’t have had there not been a big continuity reboot.

[themajesticmoose]

This Event: Everything matters!

This Same Event: Gives more spoken lines to Silver Banshee than it does to any character who is gay or lesbian, focuses entirely on straight cis white people created thirty to eighty years ago

Also why exactly is Lex Luthor not in prison facing the death penalty or at the very least life imprisonment for what he did? Like they all do remember the part where he's a mass murderer who tried to destroy all of reality so that he could re-shape the multiverse into a dystopian hell ruled by an evil god from beyond the dawn of time, right?

[deh_tommy]

Wonder Woman is bi if I’m not mistaken. Even then, what bearing does their sexuality have upon these characters?

[penguinzero]

I think it's pointing out the fact that, despite the gushing in these scans of how the new Omniverse is an amazing wide-open future where anything can happen, it's still rooted in the sensibilities of writers pretty well stuck in the past. LGBT characters are becoming more and more mainstream -- heck, even Disney has a kids' cartoon with a bi lead -- and female protagonists and protagonists of color are even more common, but a lot of the continuity-focused writing of the major comics companies puts a huge amount of emphasis on characters created decades ago, when things were less progressive -- and those characters are more often male, more often white, and overwhelmingly straight cis people.

In a real sense, holding respect for continuity as one of your cardinal virtues always means you'll be stuck to a certain degree in the past. The main continuity Superman is never going to be bi. The main continuity Batman is never going to be black. You can have spin-offs or experimental storylines changing that, but eventually, you're always going to go back to more or less the core concept that emerged in the 40s and was refined over the next few decades. And that looks more and more dated as we get ever closer to those concepts being a century old.

[lordultimus]

Just curious - which cartoon is that?

[strejdaking]

I mean, the immediate follow up being Future State would seem to at least partially refute that.

[deh_tommy]

There’s a sort of poetic justice/irony to Wonder Woman, arguably one of the greatest victims of endless continuity meddling, needless retcons and unnecessary reboots, now reheralding this bold, new yet familiar era of “fudgeit, anything goes”.

[silicondream]

What's with this "we've never seen another multiverse as wonderful and self-sacrificing as you guys" thing? This event is way too meta to be pretending that the current DCU has a monopoly on fictional heroics.

Hell, even the Dark-u-verse is full of characters performing foolish, admirable acts; they just always fail to achieve their goal, for extra tragedy points. But they still tried.

[magicrubbish]

Talk about narrow vision , all I see is Bruce and Talia in the same frame. <3