Date: 2021-03-24 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
So out of Gabby, Laura, and Logan, who counts as a duplicate, and who is eligible for resurrection?

Date: 2021-03-24 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
They all are eligible for resurrection

Date: 2021-03-24 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
What's that based on? Has it been clarified anywhere?

Date: 2021-03-24 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
It's been confirmed Logan and Laura are eligible for resurrection, yes

And since Gabby was created the same way Laura was she would be too

Also the Quiet Council are mostly smart men and women (Apart from Shaw and Sinister) and know better than to get on the wrong side of two unstoppable immortal killing machines with fists full of knives by saying "No" to them on this subject
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Date: 2021-03-24 10:02 pm (UTC)
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That's not fair to Sinister. He's plenty smart. He's got little to no self control but he's smart.

Now the guy who has had thousands of years to achieve his goals and has nothing but a handful of pyramid bases to show for it OTOH...

Also I still can't wrap my head around what Exodus brings to the table.

The less said about Chuck's judgment the better.

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Date: 2021-03-25 12:07 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
“Also the Quiet Council are mostly smart men and women”

HA

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Date: 2021-03-25 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] aperturedreams
No, Gabby not being eligible for resurrection is up for debate and an active plot point in New Mutants.

Date: 2021-03-25 04:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] alliterator
And since Gabby was created the same way Laura was she would be too

Except Gabby wasn't created the same way. Gabby was a straight up clone of Laura, while Laura was a mixture of Logan and Sarah Kinney. That's why Gabby is super worried that she might not be resurrected when she dies over in New Mutants.

Date: 2021-03-24 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] dan_ingram
I don't think we really needed a whole issue telling us Kid Cable sucks. We all know that

Date: 2021-03-24 06:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sabertoothlotus
How are the Stepford Cuckoos anything more than clones of Emma? Their powers don't include duplication or anything... Sounds like a "because we felt like it" loophole to me.

Date: 2021-03-24 08:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
A lot of the Krakoan rules seem to be implicitly capricious, so you're not wrong. I do kind of wish things would come to head about addressing that, but I guess that's long form storytelling for you.

Date: 2021-03-24 08:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
well technically t hey are her daughters though? they were created using her eggs ovum weren't they? that makes them offspring rather than clones...

Date: 2021-03-24 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
Well, that's how clones are made, though?

Date: 2021-03-25 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
In our world, yes.

Not in fiction, where they do it the sensible way, with DNA scrapings and giant vats and suchlike.

Date: 2021-03-25 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
S C I E N C E

Date: 2021-03-24 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gnarll
Sounds like Emma was on the council that made the rules and exceptions.

Date: 2021-03-24 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
Well there's hardly any point being one of the people making the rules if you don't make sure that they benefit you personally. I'd do the same

Date: 2021-03-24 09:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Pretty much. A lot of people at that table have clones (Joseph, Maddie, Evan, ect) but Emma is the only one that LIKES her's so they get special treatment.

Date: 2021-03-24 11:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mastermahan
Pretty much. The No Clones rules is an obvious excuse because they already brought back the dead Cuckoos. They were brought back because Emma wanted her brought back. Maddie was left dead because Jean and Sinister would both rather she stay dead. Which is too bad, because Madelyne living on the island would be interesting.

Madelyne did once sacrifice her life to help save the world. You'd think that would cut her a bit of slack.

Fortunately for Gabby, at least, the blatant favoritism works in her favor. Logan and Laura would want her brought back. Logan has pull in the mutant community and is sleeping with a member of the Quiet Council (and has had sex with at least two others), so the Council would just shrug and declare Gabby a special type of clone that can be resurrected.

Date: 2021-03-25 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
I mean Madelyne also wanted to murder infants to open a doorway to hell and destroy the earth and was planning to lead an army of demons to Krakoa to slaughter every single man, woman and child who lived there just because Scott couldn't keep it in his pants when Jean came back to life

So I can kind of see why, on the whole, the Quiet Council decided "Maybe we don't want her living next door to us"

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Date: 2021-03-25 05:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shakalooloo
So, hypothetically:

If young Cable and regular Cable do reunite, and both died together, how would the decision be made about which to resurrect? Prof X has mental back-ups of both scanned into his brain, so would the un-resurrected mind just be trashed, or kept in a special wing of his mind palace?

#oldcablewasright

Date: 2021-03-25 06:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
The book seems to treat this as 100% older Cable’s past self and not an alternate reality version (kind of like the O5), so I think they’d have to keep him alive long enough for the old one to live until his assassination at the hands of his younger self to close the loop.
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Re: #oldcablewasright

Date: 2021-03-25 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
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