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'I think it was mostly instinctive in the sense that we would go, “Who would they invite? Who was an important person? What are the goals that they have with this Gala and who serves those goals?” And they invite their friends and they invite their enemies because it’s a show of power, but also because they want to make things happen with them. Of course, they would invite the Avengers and the Fantastic Four. We did have a bit of a debate on whether or not Spider-Man would be invited. And I, who love Spider-Man said, “No, of course he wouldn’t be invited.” Why would he be invited?' - Jordan D. White















Date: 2021-06-30 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
"Humans love their posturing," as Krakoa throws a massive gala to announce their arrival upon the interplanetary stage.

Is that J Jonah Jameson there? I've always liked the idea of him as a pro-mutant rights voice. After all, most of them don't even wear masks!

Date: 2021-06-30 07:39 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, Jonah has always been very clearly anti vigilante*, but he\s also very pro civil rights, for humans and mutants alike.

Like during Operation Zero tolerance Bastion tried to cut a deal with Jonah and Jonah threw him out. And rather famously when a racist politician showed up and started shit talking Robbie Jonah threw him out as well.

With a good writer, Jonah is the epitome of "Good is not kind".

*And he kind of has his reasons for that, because in some continuities he got his start reporting on the KKK, and being chased and threatened by them. And so it left him with a long time mistrust of people who wear masks and operate outside the law.

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Date: 2021-06-30 01:49 pm (UTC)
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Please note you posted four pages from this issue already

https://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/9254881.html

Ensure that the combined posting does not represent more than one third of the published issue, and trim this post as required.

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Date: 2021-06-30 01:53 pm (UTC)
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Yes yes, we've argued about Manifest Destiny and colonialism and capitalism, whether or not mutants are in the right, but I think these issues all pale before the real issue as brought up by Doctor Strange in the pages above: It was terribly impolite of the X-Men to not let the other superheroes they invited to the Gala know about the dress code for their nouveau riche world power coming out party.

Date: 2021-06-30 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
This party has the kind of dress code I can get behind

And Emma in that dress is someone I'd like to get behind

And on the subject of being horny, Emma's reaction to reading Captain America's mind is hilarious here. Look on the bright side Emma. There arestill plenty of people at this party who want to call you Mommy that has nothing to do with you reminding them of their mother

You are drinking with one of them here in fact

Quentin Quire calling Tony Stark a "Boring old *Censored*" here is something else I loved. The Hellfire Gala has been good for Quire. Between torturing nazis and talking shit about Tony Stark he's growing on me like a vine

I do love the looks on the faces of the human delegates here as they realise just how far beyond them mutantkind truly is and always will be

And Kitty cheering up Franklin here is a nice nod to the characters history together. Kitty is a good surrogate older sister to Franklin

Date: 2021-06-30 03:03 pm (UTC)
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Mutants are physically superior by virtue of having superpowers and immunity to STDs (I think?), but they’re not anyone’s moral or intellectual better and to claim otherwise is pure hubris. Brazilian lady is right, all they’re going to do is make everyone hate them even harder than they already do. Heck, they make a big show of colonising Mars, but doesn’t ORCHIS have moonbases on freaking Saturn? How’s the world gonna react when find out about Terra Verde? Emma Frost says that’s not like they’ve announced they conquered Earth when that’s literally what they did to these exact same people to their faces.
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Date: 2021-06-30 02:13 pm (UTC)
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I think this is the first time I have actually liked the way Cap was written in an Xmen book.

As always Emma is a treat.

Date: 2021-06-30 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
Emma Frost does not remind me of my mother

But

She is the kind of woman I've called "Daddy" many times

Date: 2021-06-30 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] super_fly
I want to believe Steve deliberately had that thought because he knew Emma would be eavesdropping on his mind

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Date: 2021-06-30 02:40 pm (UTC)
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Okay, “Finally, I’m underdressed” got a laugh out of me.

Wait, what happened in those last few pages? Why’d the mood turn sour? Did I miss something?

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Date: 2021-06-30 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
That's them reacting to the reveal about Mars now being Planet Arrako

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Date: 2021-06-30 03:40 pm (UTC)
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god yes that one too! oh Doc....

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Date: 2021-06-30 05:13 pm (UTC)
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It was hilarious. For once, Stephen's outfit isn't the one that immediately draws everyone's eye as standing out!

Date: 2021-06-30 02:49 pm (UTC)
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What? An X-Men event I actually care about? Surely not!

Date: 2021-06-30 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
I've loved the Hellfire Gala issues!

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Date: 2021-06-30 03:40 pm (UTC)
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Emma being turned on by Cap and then realizing she reminds him of his mom (also, REALLY CAP?!?!?! HOW?!)

Date: 2021-06-30 10:56 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, not quite my favorite bit (the Doom stuff is priceless) but it's really up there.

Date: 2021-06-30 04:03 pm (UTC)
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Dear lord this is terrible.

"Let's turn the X-men into unlikable jerks! That'll be a good idea!"

The sooner this whole Krakoa era comes crashing down the better.

Date: 2021-06-30 06:46 pm (UTC)
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i don't see them as unlikeable jerks.... hell it;s everyone else that seems to be unlikeable jerks.

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Date: 2021-06-30 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mazway_75
Still hating the "Franklin was never a mutant" turn but like Kitty still being friends with him.

And yes Emma's reaction to Cap and the Shi'ar was fun.

Plus Doom being Doom. HIs "I'm more superior because I'm human" talk was perfect and can't wait to see what fuss he causes here.

Date: 2021-06-30 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
Doom: Doom has no problem with mutantkind saying they are better than humanity

Only with them saying they are better than Doom

Because Doom is better than EVERYONE

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Date: 2021-06-30 04:50 pm (UTC)
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There is a weird amount of ageism going on in these panels.

Date: 2021-06-30 06:28 pm (UTC)
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To be fair, if anyone would be ageist that’d be folks like Quentin Quire and Emma Frost.

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Date: 2021-06-30 11:03 pm (UTC)
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I assume Reed whispered "Don't talk to me or my son ever again" to Charles.

Date: 2021-06-30 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
Also respect to Steve being at a fancy party surrounded by half naked mutant hardbodies and free flowing champagne and being "No thank you ma'am, I'll have a glass of milk. A normal sized one, too, not the world's tiniest glass of milk like some sort of shadowy conspirator."

Date: 2021-07-01 07:38 pm (UTC)
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Depending on the writer, Cap is a firm non-drinker.

He's more or less immune to the effects, but his father had a serious drinking problem and so was already averse to it before he became Cap.

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Date: 2021-06-30 11:52 pm (UTC)
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I'm told there were real world celebrities sprinkled into the crowd scenes. I am not 'with it' enough to identify most of them; can anyone here explain who the famouses are?

Date: 2021-07-01 02:55 am (UTC)
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Patton Oswalt and his wife, Meredith Salenger, are in the pages posted here, as well as Killer Mike and El-P, the rap duo known as Run The Jewels.

Later issues actually have Kevin Feige, as well as cameos from, you know, all of the writers and artists.

Date: 2021-07-01 04:54 am (UTC)
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Maybe I'm getting sick of "Crazy Rich Mutants".

Date: 2021-07-01 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
Hold on...
Gyrich is part of Orchis (and just generally an unlikable berk even when he's trying to be tolerable).
The same Orchis that was building Sentinels to wipe out Mutants.
Why the frick did they invite him?

Did Brand just... not tell anyone about this?

Date: 2021-07-01 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
Brand and the other heroes of the Marvel universe do not know Gyrich is part of ORCHIS yet

He has kept that secret probably becaue even as much of a moron Henry Peter Gyrich is he still has two braincells to rub together that tell him that teams of superheroes finding out he's working with a fascist murder cult that is building racist killbots next door to the sun would be a bad idea

So he's been keeping it quiet

I imagine him trying to lure Guardian into it here is a case of we the reader hearing what he's saying but it's being whispered in universe so no one else can

Or everyone's just so drunk after the party they haven't noticed Gyrich loudly announcing he's joined up with science nazi's who just brought Even More Evil Skynet online

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