This version of Doom was a disappointment after his appearance in SWORD. It doesn't help that I have recently been re-reading John Byrne's Fantastic Four either.
I could never get in to the Lee and Kirby Fantastic Four. Whike I can admire their early run for creating so many important parts of the Marvel Universe, their later run seemed to desend in to the same old stuff with the Silver Surfer and/or the Inhumans.
One part of the late Lee and Kirby era I did like was the first appearance of Agatha Harkness.
Who defeated the Fearsome Four single-handed? It was Agatha all along!
Meh. They teased us with the idea of Johnny maturing and growing up yet again, with him finding a lasting relationship (with Sky) and now... this. Sky's gone, Victorious is just awful, and Johnny can't turn his flame off. What a dull, annoying swerve of a storyline. Imagine a world where Doom was allowed to be happier and mend fences with the Fantastic Four once and for all, and NOT be the worst bad guy. Not that it would ever happen.
Imagine a world where Doom was allowed to be happier and NOT be the worst bad guy. Not that it would ever happen.
"The laws of story would suggest that no cure can last for very long, Benjamin. For in the end, alas, you are more interesting and satisfying as you are."
A world in which Doom is happier and can mend fences with the Fantastic Four and not be the worst bad guy ever would be nice for him and them as people, to be sure. But as characters in a superhero story, well, it would most likely suck and be kind of boring, to be brutally honest, because it would mean the end of their battles, and their battles are precisely why people enjoy reading and writing superhero stories to begin with. Sure, you can maybe shake up the status quo temporarily every so often, maybe dabble in the odd non-canon elseworld here and there, maybe even if you're really lucky and clever you'll write something that's a good idea and doesn't break the premise too much for it to stick around. But in the mainstream universe, that status quo has been resetting itself for sixty-odd years and it ain't gonna stop any time soon.
Sure, it's repetitive and static, but, well, that's mainstream superhero comics for ya.
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Date: 2021-07-28 03:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-07-28 03:28 pm (UTC)" No, but I nicked my face with some of the cutlery. "
" Good enough. "
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Date: 2021-07-28 10:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-07-28 04:10 pm (UTC)This run has been the most frustrating since the DeFalco/Ryan early 90s days.
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Date: 2021-07-28 05:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-07-28 05:59 pm (UTC)I could never get in to the Lee and Kirby Fantastic Four. Whike I can admire their early run for creating so many important parts of the Marvel Universe, their later run seemed to desend in to the same old stuff with the Silver Surfer and/or the Inhumans.
One part of the late Lee and Kirby era I did like was the first appearance of Agatha Harkness.
Who defeated the Fearsome Four single-handed? It was Agatha all along!
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Date: 2021-07-28 06:05 pm (UTC)They teased us with the idea of Johnny maturing and growing up yet again, with him finding a lasting relationship (with Sky) and now... this.
Sky's gone, Victorious is just awful, and Johnny can't turn his flame off.
What a dull, annoying swerve of a storyline.
Imagine a world where Doom was allowed to be happier and mend fences with the Fantastic Four once and for all, and NOT be the worst bad guy. Not that it would ever happen.
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Date: 2021-07-29 04:01 pm (UTC)"The laws of story would suggest that no cure can last for very long, Benjamin. For in the end, alas, you are more interesting and satisfying as you are."
A world in which Doom is happier and can mend fences with the Fantastic Four and not be the worst bad guy ever would be nice for him and them as people, to be sure. But as characters in a superhero story, well, it would most likely suck and be kind of boring, to be brutally honest, because it would mean the end of their battles, and their battles are precisely why people enjoy reading and writing superhero stories to begin with. Sure, you can maybe shake up the status quo temporarily every so often, maybe dabble in the odd non-canon elseworld here and there, maybe even if you're really lucky and clever you'll write something that's a good idea and doesn't break the premise too much for it to stick around. But in the mainstream universe, that status quo has been resetting itself for sixty-odd years and it ain't gonna stop any time soon.
Sure, it's repetitive and static, but, well, that's mainstream superhero comics for ya.
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