Date: 2022-02-16 05:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lordultimus
Really like them continuing Mary Jane and Felicia's friendship.

Date: 2022-02-16 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
Now they need to be more than friends

Date: 2022-02-17 04:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
Gimme that polycule

Date: 2022-02-17 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
We need to get to see Mary Jane stroking that pussycat and making her purr

Date: 2022-02-17 09:40 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] super_fly
According to color experts red always pairs well with black and white
Edited Date: 2022-02-17 09:40 am (UTC)

Date: 2022-02-17 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
And according to color sexperts, horny red heads pair well with kinky blondes in black PVC who will be happy to pound them into orgasmic oblivion while they're tied up in their very own special "Cats Cradle" of rope bondage

Date: 2022-02-16 05:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Mary Jane and Felicia became friends almost by accident. Due to the times Peter asked Felicia to protect Mary Jane during major events. (Maximum Carnage and others I don't recall.)

Date: 2022-02-17 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
I always like when they're portrayed that way

Both because I ship them and because it's far preferable to them being written as at each others throats just because Felicia used to bang MJ's boyfriend

Date: 2022-02-16 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
So glad Peter saved her in time here

And that she was able to swiftly shake off the garbage that this freak tried to fill her head with

Date: 2022-02-16 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
Next issue: Peter swings back to apologise to MJ and Felicia.
"That sounded a heck of a lot more impressive in my head, I swear."

I mean, it is a very Peter thing to say, and entirely believable given his history.


Though on the plus side, an attack based on making people feel negative thoughts ain't going to do much to Peter.
It's like trying to drown a fish.

(increasingly worried that the conclusion is going to have Ben come back and die 'heroically' to save Peter. Again.
Or get killed because of Peter's self-destructive stupidity.)

Date: 2022-02-16 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blues32
Yeah, I'm not seeing Ben showing up right about now. His heroic side has taken a vacation.

Date: 2022-02-16 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
Queen Goblin: I can fill your mind with negative thoughts, depression, anxiety and self-loathing!

Peter: My god

How long have you been doing this to me!

Queen Goblin: .............

What?

No I...I only got started as a villain today

......

are you okay?

Date: 2022-02-16 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] agharta75
Peter: "this is negative thoughts, depression, anxiety and self loathing? Bring it on! I haven't felt this great in YEARS!"

Date: 2022-02-17 04:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
Reminds me of one of my favorite One Piece battles, where Perona could crush the spirits of everyone else with her powers, but Usopp was immune because every day he didn't die horribly was a pleasant surprise to him.

Date: 2022-02-17 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blues32
And then Perona tried to cheer him up with pep talks just so her powers would work.

Date: 2022-02-16 05:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
Thats honestly a pretty good secret.

Date: 2022-02-16 05:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
Ben left because they other people think they know him so well. so he has to do something they would not expect.

Date: 2022-02-16 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blues32
Pete, Pete, Pete...you may want to get some back-up for this. You're not in the best of shape.

Date: 2022-02-16 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
But if Peter got back-up, how would he be able to screw up?

Date: 2022-02-16 05:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Is this Goblin channeling D'Spayre? Because causing people to feel despair is D'Spayre's thing. And then they push through because heroic willpower.

Date: 2022-02-16 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
She was Ashley Kafka so she now has Evil Psychiatrist Powers

Following comic book logic

Date: 2022-02-16 07:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] john_drake1964
The continued issue of comic books having largely either "evil and manipulative," "good, but ineffectual" or "barely any to be seen"," psychiatrists/psychologists/therapists/other mental health specialists is especially frustrating as we in this century actually begin to move on from a mindset where mental health is quietly shoved in a box, and actually trying to come to grips with "it's something that we need to talk about as a society and work to improve systems which help people who are going through mental health concerns."

We have had attempts at addressing mental health, but the less said about some of them, the better.

The few times we do get competent, decent mental health professionals in comics, they largely tend to disappear or be in the background. Like in DC, I can think of...what, Joan Leland as a fairly competent professional, if only hampered by working at Arkham? And she's in the DCAU and Telltale, not sure if she's even made it to comics canon.

And I can't tell why (outside of status quo stuff) that this occurs. Whether it's simply continued cultural trends reinforcing the idea that mental health and the professionals involved are only in it for the money or prestige of writing about some patient in a tell-all (ala Friedlander from GTA V), or some decades long overreaction to Wertham...honestly, it's frustrating and disappointing that its still largely existent as a story-telling element, if now there seems to be some advancement.

Date: 2022-02-16 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
In this case she isn't evil of her own free will, she was turned evil by Beyond Corp who mutated her into a goblin monster with a jar full of Norman Osborn's Evil Thoughts

Comics are WEIRD

Date: 2022-02-16 07:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] john_drake1964
True, the exact circumstances of evil turning are not of her personal choice in this, so it's a bit less straight cut then "Today, I think I will set this orphanage on fire while kicking an old person down some stairs," but it does fall into "mental health professionals in comics have bad things happen to them," category. And I think after this, if she's turned back from being Queen Goblin, she'll need some mental health help, and given this is Marvel...well, good chance of any of the categories mentioned coming true.

Date: 2022-02-16 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
"We had a psychiatrist ready to counsel you about being turned from a psychiatrist into a supervillain but they became a supervillain this morning so we've had to cancel that appointment"

Date: 2022-02-16 07:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] john_drake1964
"Is there anyone else?"

"Well, we did have one other psychiatrist..."

"Wait, did?"

"Yes, they're currently in Ravencroft after suffering an extreme nervous breakdown after dealing with their former patient, a psychiatrist who is so happened, again turned evil."

"Isn't there anyone who can help me?"

"Well, there is Dr. Timothy..."

"I'll take him."

[Later]

"Sure are a lot of pictures of toenails on the wall."

"Oh, I'm a licensed podiatrist."

"I'll take what I can get at this point."

Date: 2022-02-16 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
Eventually they find the most qualified psychiatrist available in the Marvel universe

"I am Dr Green Z Hill

Here at....t h e r a p y....we're here to answer that one burning question

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU"

Your insurance isn't covering these sessions by the way"
Edited Date: 2022-02-16 08:35 pm (UTC)

Date: 2022-02-17 04:41 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
Once upon a time, Leonard Samson was a pretty good therapist. Even post-gamma mutation!

Date: 2022-02-17 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
That's true he's pretty competent by comic book standards

Date: 2022-02-16 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blues32
She worked to cure Vermin. I think she's used to needing mental help.

Date: 2022-02-16 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blues32
Yeah, this new form of hers doesn't make much sense. I mean, if it contains all Norman's sins, how come she doesn't have the crime against nature that is Norman's hair?

In all seriousness, why did she transform at all? Sin Eater didn't get all Gobliny when he took them. He didn't even turn all negative when he had Mr. Negative's powers. He just got huge when he took Juggernaut's for some reason. And his neck disappeared. I feel like it would work better if Beyond Corp used a variant of the Goblin Formula specifically tailored for this. I mean, what's a Spider-Man without a Goblin? With Norman out of the business for the time being, a replacement was needed for Ben. This makes sense. Instead they exposed her to something as abstract as "sins" and hoped for the best.

I know she just appeared and all, but she's not being a very good Goblin. Where's the insane peels of laughter? Ned Leeds was better at being a Goblin and he was a brainwashed patsy.

Date: 2022-02-16 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
Poor Ben doesn't even get a Brand Name Goblin he gets the ninety nine cent store off model bootleg action figure that got discontinued because of safety lawsuits in the country it was produced in

Date: 2022-02-17 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blues32
She's totally a knock off goblin, isn't she? Just change Green to Queen...they're not even being creative.

Date: 2022-02-17 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
Though she definitely fills out that black leather fetish-wear she's flying around in a whole lot nicer than Norman Osborn would

Edited Date: 2022-02-17 02:27 pm (UTC)

Date: 2022-02-17 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blues32
He's still rocking a man purse like nobody else.

Date: 2022-02-17 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
It works for him

Date: 2022-02-17 04:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
Something something Beyond did SCIENCE with the Goblin Goo? The comic didn't actually show what they did or how they did it at all.

Date: 2022-02-17 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blues32
Just said they "exposed her" to Norman's sins. I wouldn't be surprised if Kindred gave them to Beyond Corp to make sure they didn't go back to Norman. Or maybe he just put them in a jar and Beyond Corp found it.

Date: 2022-02-17 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
That makes me think they either made her read Norman's fifty chapter self insert Harry Potter fanfic on AO3 where he dates Luna Lovegood or they showed her his memories of him banging Gwen Stacy

Date: 2022-02-17 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blues32
Oh, the latter, definitely. And made sure she thought it was authentic. Remind her over and over that it was all canon.

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