X-Men Unlimited #45

[superboyprime]

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[numeronone]

You'd think teaming up with someone called "The Armageddon Man" would make you pause to rethink your stance.

[cainofdreaming]

"And also give a warm welcome to our other new recruits! Kills Innocents Man! Babykicker! And Surprise Buttsex! ... Oh, he entered from the back."

[numeronone]

When it was the Sinestro Corps, whose whole thing is "space terrorists", we expected names like ArKILLo and DESPOTellis and, er, Sinestro.

But an environmental freedom group?

[deh_tommy]

“Who could have possibly guessed Evil Incarnate would turn out to be exactly that?”

[scorntx]

"Don't forget Seal Clubber and Dog Kicker. Err, where are they?"
"Guess."

[numeronone]

"Our peace treaty with the MurderMen of the Violens Nebula has been broken. We should have seen that coming."

- 'The Thrilling Adventure Hour'

[scorntx]

And after all that hard work Betrayo did securing such a good deal!

re: Judas Traveller

[deh_tommy]

Hopefully now we can stop pretending X-Men Green had any kind of moral ground to stand on and get Nature Girl back to normal again.

Re: Judas Traveller

[numeronone]

"We on the Quiet Council are surprisingly flexible when it comes to murder charges."

"Da. We have all been there."

"Some of us are heading back there right now!"

"Oh, Sinister...!"

[Canned Laughter]

Re: Judas Traveller

[blues32]

"Back to normal again"? Did she ever have an actual character outside of this?

Re: Judas Traveller

[icon_uk]

She was one of the more popular characters introduced in "Wolverine and the X-Men", and then joined the second "Generation X", so yes, I believe she did.

Re: Judas Traveller

[thehood]

Not sure she can go back to normal, unless it's revealed this isn't really her.

[blues32]

Someone needs to tell Nature Girl what "Armageddon" means. It doesn't mean "fix the planet" or "wipe out a singular species". It won't be death on demand, it will be death unrelenting.

[cainofdreaming]

Not to mention a place in Israel.

[jgraygaming]

Are the news report panels a "imagine what would happen" dream sequence? Because I'm pretty sure blowing up the moon is a big deal with ramifications across the entire Marvel line.

Not to mention it would cause an ecological disaster, which strikes me as against Nature Girl's warped ideology.

[lordultimus]

It happened and was resolved in Dan Slott's FF as the first shot of the Reckoning War.

[beyondthefringe]

"we saw the moon explode... but it got fixed. Just another traumatic Tuesday, am I right Jerry?"

"That you are, Susan. And now... the traffic report. You'll want to avoid I-66 west as Iron Man is fighting Whiplash outside of DC and there's a bit of a backup..."

[sabertoothlotus]

As someone who lives in the area, you'll want to avoid I-66, regardless of super-powered shenanigans. It's awful.

[scorntx]

"The government has released a statement that everything is fine, except for all the giant chunks of moonrock everywhere, which they say "will probably go away after a while"."

[cainofdreaming]

It was the other kind of green movement that was to blame for that. Badoon.

[onsokumaru]

Badoon tss

[stubbleupdate]

[scorntx]

"Would you miss it?"


(And a reminder that real world America decided to put a man on the moon because that was easier than nuking it.)

[giraffesforever]

Oh lord, is Cypher about to explain how sending those two out in the world to be terrorists was actually the moral and defensible thing to do? How many characters can one author damage?

[icon_uk]

I mean, Krakoa and Cypher clearly believe that, as they did release them, so they'd be on sort of on thin ice there already if they changed their stance.

Doug has made his and Krakoa's dis-satisfaction with the only penal option on Krakoa being "We don't have prisons, so we throw all lawbreakers into a sunless pit to stagnate in a sort of coma, with no extenuating circumstances accounted for or rehabilitation offered" clear on more than one occasion.

Of course, given that Cypher and Krakoa also oversaw the attempted rehabilitation of Sabretooth (which didn't end well), maybe penal reform is not their strong suit.

[giraffesforever]

I may be mis-remembering, but I thought the release was more Krakoa than Doug? Doug was just explaining Krakoa's decision? Inscrutable sentient life-sucking island ecosystem being cool with sending murderers out to do murders seems a lot more reasonable to me than it being Doug.

Doug is obviously right to oppose the pit, I just can't believe he would think that sending those two out to continue murdering was both better and the only alternative

[icon_uk]

I think you are right that it was Krakoa's idea to release them, but Doug did go along with it when we know Doug has no problem speaking out about things he doesn't agree with, or offering alternatives.

I will definitely be interested in what he has to say on the topic.

[mastermahan]

DOUG: Krakoa and I decided taking a murderous terrorist who controls natures and hooking her into the brain of the giant piece of nature we all live on was a really stupid idea.

XAVIER: Then why didn't you say anything?

DOUG: I did! Repeatedly! But you didn't listen, any more than you did when I warned you about Sabretooth!

XAVIER: How was I supposed to know his mind was active and connecting with Krakoa and the other prisoners?

DOUG: You're the world's greatest telepath!

[blues32]

Doug makes a lot of poor decisions. He also didn't let Mystique and Destiny kill Moira. That would have been the end of it. Kill her and launch her corpse into the sea. Nobody would have known about it.

[dianakingston]

It's wild that one thing every writer seems to be taking from the Hickman era is to just not have characters be held accountable for anything, ever, not even to themselves. Everyone seems to know Moira's with ORCHIS now, and Doug doesn't for a *second* feel like that might be on him for letting her go. Because on Krakoa everyone is always right.

[scorntx]

In the Marvel universe, crackpots refuse to believe aliens would blow up the moon.


Also, for a super-secret traitor, Abigail Brand sure is hanging out openly with Orchis.
Feels like if and when the X-Men find out she's turned on them the dialogues going to be:
"Abigail? But... how did we not notice?"
"Do you know I've genuinely no idea?"

[dan_ingram]

"Also, for a super-secret traitor, Abigail Brand sure is hanging out openly with Orchis."

Maybe she has trust issues?

[scorntx]

What, the closed-off, manipulative spymaster with the dark and shady past?

I dunno... that doesn't sound very likely...