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Content Warning: Not really NSFW, but - THIS IS A "BIG DAVE" STRIP.


You begged, you screamed, and yet after all this time here he comes again: BIG DAVE, the obscure 2000AD creation of Mark Millar, Grant Morrison, and Steve Parkhouse, and the second least likely Grant Morrison work to be reprinted after NEW ADVENTURES OF HITLER.

Grant Morrison, you may have heard, received an MBE today. I'm really confused as to how I should react, but congrats to him, and I suppose that's good for comics, and I AM a Morrison fan of long standing but...still odd.

What I do know is that surely the patriotism he showed in this BIG DAVE story all those years ago(as well as this, shown at Bleeding Cool, plus much of THE INVISIBLES and Diana as depicted therein, which is to say she's raped by an interdimensional royal monster) must have played a crucial part.
Here are the highlights of everyone's favorite typical NEWS OF THE WORLD reader's defense of the nation.



Note: I have spared you a full splash page of Dave on the toilet, drawn in a most graphic and unsanitary way. I won't ask your thanks, it was only the need to edit.









(c)Grant Morrison, Mark Millar, and Steve Parkhouse.


PS if interested: LULU book 1 is now complete and you can read chapters 2-3 online free here.)























Date: 2012-06-17 08:22 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
....

Um.. What? I'm not sure what I dislike more, the destruction of poor Postman Pat or the implication of the nature of people who are unemployed. I get that it's meant to be satirical, but.. I just don't get it.

It's not even genuinely funny like Moore and Davis doing DR and Quinch and riffing on Apocalypse Now and the nature of Hollywood.

Re: PS

Date: 2012-06-17 08:36 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Yeah, because the Sun on Sunday has been such an improvement

Re: PS

Date: 2012-06-17 08:46 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Hey, give it time. More and more details about Murdoch's bullshit are coming to light; It's especially telling when you have The Most Boring Man Alive (tm), John Major - of all people - coming forward with some pretty interesting revelations.

In an ideal world, of course, Murdoch would have the book thrown at him and his shitty papers shut down. Of course, we can guarantee that, in the end, he might lose another paper, but all he'll really get is a slap on the wrist.

Re: PS

Date: 2012-06-17 11:55 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
John Major, the man who ran away from the circus to join a merchant bank... you couldn't make this shit up if you tried.

I think his defining moment was when we found out he'd had an affair whilst Prime Minister, almost a moment where you thought begrudgingly "I never knew he had it in him", and then to find out the affair was with, of all people, Edwina Curry. Oy vey....

Re: PS

Date: 2012-06-17 04:11 pm (UTC)
grazzt: (Default)
From: [personal profile] grazzt
John Major, the man who ran away from the circus to join a merchant bank... you couldn't make this shit up if you tried.

You know, when Terry Pratchett had a character in "Making Money" who ran a bank while secretly having been trained to be a clown, I just assumed he had made it up. I didn't realize that such a person actually existed.

Re: PS

Date: 2012-06-17 11:56 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Sorry, I'll try my best not to destroy your hopes too much.

Big Dave very definitely isn't the Daily Mail approach. The News of the World is working class, the Daily Mail aims at more of a slice of VERY Conservative middle England (or Britain come to that) which bemoans the state of the world as it is, loathes change, wants the return of approximately the 1960's when people "knew their place" (and by people I mean women, foreigners, young people, non-whites and... well, you can see where it's going) and the power of the bobby on the street to give people a clip round the ear for scrumping apples etc...

Russell Howard has a really fun routine about the British press, which summarises a lot of this stuff.

Re: PS

Date: 2012-06-17 01:13 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
A general strike at the general right wing tabloid press I'd say.

The News of the World, was basically the Sunday edition of "The Sun" and should always be considered in that light. The fact we got a "Sun on Sunday" so soon after the NotW closed is one of the more cynical aspects of an already desperately cynical (and deservedly so) business.

Re: PS

Date: 2012-06-17 06:34 pm (UTC)
cleome45: (logo1)
From: [personal profile] cleome45
Sounds a lot like the average Oregon Live commenter. Just delete a few "u"s and change a bit of slang here and there...

Re: PS

Date: 2012-06-17 11:57 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Yeah, and though our Press is very politicised, at least our principle TV channels remains neutral. (When EVERY Government complains the BBC is too partisan towards the Opposition, then you KNOW they're doing something right)

Re: PS

Date: 2012-06-17 10:21 pm (UTC)
greenmask: (Default)
From: [personal profile] greenmask
Neutral my arse

But better than what we might have otherwise.

Re: PS

Date: 2012-06-17 10:37 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Which way would you say they lean?

Re: PS

Date: 2012-06-17 10:47 pm (UTC)
greenmask: (Default)
From: [personal profile] greenmask
It's a tricky question because obviously they aren't oppressive trolls and there's arguable leftism spotted about but I do not trust the neutrality of their news coverage. Lotta bitterness over lopsided reportage on the alternative vote, tbh.

Re: PS

Date: 2012-06-17 08:44 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
I think I kind of get it, but it still seems to be kind-of refracted through a Mark Millar 'fuck everything, you can't have nice things' lens, is all. But.. Yeah, I'm kinda getting it. Still not sure I like it.

Date: 2012-06-17 08:53 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I'd forgotten all about Big Dave... and I was happy that way for the most part. It's hardly... subtle, is it?

Date: 2012-06-17 10:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rordulum
Then you've probably forgotten about the other story, where he was sent into Iraq to kill Saddam Hussein, and the Iraqis used a secret weapon that turned everyone into "shirtlifting poofs", except Dave. Because he was so manly and tough. He did beat the crap out of his friend though, for hitting on him while under the influence of said weapon.

Date: 2012-06-17 11:53 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Yeah, THANKS for that reminder...

Date: 2012-06-17 12:00 pm (UTC)
deleonjh: (Default)
From: [personal profile] deleonjh
What is a giro and why is it worth 36 pounds?

Date: 2012-06-17 12:47 pm (UTC)
deleonjh: (Default)
From: [personal profile] deleonjh
Ah. At first I thought it was a gyro sandwich but then I realized it would have needed to be the best sandwich ever created in the history of the universe. Plus having it delivered through the mail would have been odd.

Date: 2012-06-17 03:40 pm (UTC)
whitesycamore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] whitesycamore
When I was very young I used to think that the Thin Lizzy song was actually called 'Whisky and the Giro.' It made sense to me.

What can I say, I was a product of my environment!

Date: 2012-06-18 05:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
OK, now I'm trying to figure out how 'giro' is pronounced.

*listens to the Thin Lizzy version of Whisky in the Jar* OK, I think I can imagine the pronunciations being similar.

Date: 2012-06-18 08:02 am (UTC)
whitesycamore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] whitesycamore
Soft g, then eye-row. I really need to learn IPA.

It does sound pretty similar when Phil Lynott sings it. Also 'giro' was a real word I recognised (and you might use it to pay for a bottle of whiskey when it arrives, so it makes sense in context), while 'jar...o' really wasn't.

But remember, if you're not a Brit, or even if you just grew up in a different region from me, then the boundaries between what you consider to be one vowel sound and another are going to be massively different from mine!

Date: 2012-06-17 06:39 pm (UTC)
cleome45: (lightning1)
From: [personal profile] cleome45
Useless Fact: 36 pounds = 56 U.S. dollars (rounded up), if one of those online converters is to be believed.

Hey, I'm on Unemployment myself. Of course I had to look.

Date: 2012-06-17 11:44 pm (UTC)
deleonjh: (Default)
From: [personal profile] deleonjh
Actually in 1993 according to the chicanery of inflation it was $76.97, still pretty piss poor.

By the way, I keep that website handy for watching Mad Men.

Date: 2012-06-17 11:56 pm (UTC)
cleome45: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cleome45
It's not exactly high living in the U.S., either. Though it might have gone a tad further when this comic first appeared. As I've said before, I'd have been on the street 2-3 years ago if I didn't have family helping me out-- as best they can.

My post-tax Unemployment when I'm on is $144 a week. I'm still sporadically finding wage work, but as the current trickle of shit jobs is only in the 8.80-9.00/hr range, my Unemployment will decrease in the next quarter because my earning power has decreased.

Fuck fuck fuckity fuck.

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