Amazing Spider-Man #700

[cyberghostface]

Dying in Dr. Octopus' body, Spidey confronts Ock (in his body) one last time. Peter is unable to transfer his consciousness back, but as his life flashes before his eyes Ock receives them as well via their mental link, with himself in place of Peter in them.



Ock (still in Spidey's body) tells Spidey he doesn't want this, and asks how he can do what Spidey does. Spidey (in Ock's body) tells him that he has to, because with great power...



But "Ock" is dead.





While this will probably last as long as Captain America's death did, I actually like the idea of a (reformed?) Ock as Spider-Man. I think there's a lot of potential with this idea and I'm definitely on board for Superior Spider-Man.

So I'm surprised to say this, but kudos to Slott. I'm looking forward to see where Ock!Spidey goes from here.

EDIT: There's an interesting write-up here.

Comments

[kirke_novak]

Just been on Bleeding Cool where there's a discussion about the implications of this, if Ock has sex with MJ. Generally, a bunch of guys deciding on what is and isn't rape.Literally. Gems include "sex is a physical thing, she's having sex with Peters body so no" and "she consented to have sex with Ock even if she believed its Peter so no rape."

I immediately run here.

[cyberghostface]

Do these people not know about "rape by deception"?

Although I still don't think Slott will go down that route. But we'll see.

[kirke_novak]

If its not forceful it doesn't count.

[darkknightjrk]

I think this is one of those things that can't be really compared to real-life concepts due to silly Comic Book Science.

I mean, this is the body of Peter Parker, the memories of Peter Parker, with the personality and memories of another man. There is deceit, and if MJ found out she would lose her shit, but I don't know if "rape" is the right word.

[cyberghostface]

He's still violating MJ and it opens up a whole can of worms I don't think Slott would want to deal with -- already he's getting a lot of flack about rape on his Twitter even though the most Ock has done is kiss MJ -- in a Spider-Man comic.

[bardbrain]

Here's the thing.

Ock has Peter's memories. What if he goes out on a date with MJ, forgets he's Ock, and they get together? Then Ock is the one who wakes up the next morning wondering what came over him?

Icky? Yes. Icky can be a good story. But it dodges the rapey issue for the most part.

[cyberghostface]

Maybe if he thinks he's Peter it's a gray area but if he's consciously aware of who he is then I would consider it to be rape.

Anyways I'm not sure if this is an angle they'd want to pursue if Slott's intention is to make Ock a sympathetic (anti)hero.

[silicondream]

Do these people not know about "rape by deception"?

After the amount of bullshit that went down re: Chameleon? No. No, they do not.